[metmom]

There are people who desire everything God has to offer and others that don't. Who are the foolish virgins spoken of in Mat 25? "Virgins" speaks of church members, but some are left behind where they buy and sell. Acts 2 tells of receiving POWER from the Holy Spirit. Were the Apostles "saved" in Acts 1? If Acts 2 never happened, would they have power to do the rest of the Bible? Tongues is a sign of the Holy Spirit. Scripture calls it "evidence". If you don't have tongues, do you have any of the other gifts? Why wouldn't you want everything God has for you? Are you "lukewarm"?

The *virgins* are not church age believers. They are at the wedding of the Lamb.

Church age believers are the Bride of Christ. We're the one getting married.

I still am not sure who the virgins are, but since the church, the BRIDE of Christ is the one being married in the wedding, then the virgins are not the church.

So your whole speculation falls apart.

The Holy Spirit gives the gifts to each as *HE* wills, not as we will.

Also, show us where in Scripture that tongues is called the "evidence" as you state, even putting it in quotes. Chapter and verses please.

We are not admonished to seek after tongues. On the contrary, we are told to desire the greater gifts (tongues is the least) and to seek rather to prophesy rather than speak in tongues.

And for this reason, much of the Pentecostal movement and speaking in tongues can be determined to be fake, because it does NOT line up with Scripture.

What it teaches is contrary to what Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14.

[chuckles]

There are 4 women in Spiritual language in the Bible. Jezabel, the whore of Babylon( Catholics and all break off of it) in Rev, a divorced( Jews) or widow woman, and the Bride. The Bride is a virgin,...always. Any reference in the Bible of virgins is the church. God will not marry an adulterer. If you have other idols, your not a virgin.

The virgins are the church. I don't know how to make it more evident.

...."So your whole speculation falls apart."...Not hardly. You just want to argue if you can't get this. It is true He gives the gifts He wants to, but you can ask.

You do NOT have to speak in tongues to be saved, but you will have some gift of God or you couldn't do the works of God. We are made a little less than angels. If you have no Spiritual power, Satan will overcome you. Just as it says in Eph 6:18, It is part of the armor of God you need against the devil. If you are in a spiritual war, you need spiritual weapons.

Anyway, I can assure you it isn't fake. There may be some fakers, just as there is anywhere. Are there fakers in the catholic church molesting kids and fornicating with women? How about these Lutherans making fun of Pentecostals( of which I am not). Are there homosexual preachers marrying sodomites in their churches? If you can judge me by speaking in tongues, why can't I have a look at your practices? I'm just stating what the Bible says and you are trying to make God fit your box. Have you ever asked God to give you tongues? Have you ever tried to speak in tongues? If you don't speak in tongues, what gift did the Spirit give you? Tongues is the least of the gifts, but it is a gift. When you lay hands on a Baptist and they hit the ground, are they faking? When you anoint lay hands on a Baptist preachers wife and she is healed of Pancreatitis after suffering for 10 months, is she faking? If you aren't seeing God work, maybe you are in the wrong neighborhood. If you don't believe in healing, why pray? Prophesy, tongues, Word of knowledge, ect are all fake, but you pray for healing? Why bother if it's fake.