Posted on 09/13/2016 6:56:35 PM PDT by Morgana
Many Judeo-Christian leaders speak out against abortion, but the few who advocate for abortion often are the ones who get the most media attention.
On Monday in Kentucky, pro-abortion clergy held a rally at the State Capitol to advocate for abortion and other issues, the State-Journal reports. The event was called the Higher Ground Moral Day of Action, and it was held in conjunction with other rallies nation-wide.
Led by clergy, the event highlighted the upcoming election and called on candidates and elected officials to uphold the most sacred moral principles of our faith and constitutional values. These included the economic liberation of all people; ensuring every child receives access to quality education; healthcare access for all; criminal justice reform; and ensuring historically marginalized communities have equal protection under the law, according to the declaration.
Among other issues, the declaration called for the defense of abortion as health care and a womans right. In this way, the declaration omitted unborn babies from its call to stand against systemic racism, classism, poverty, xenophobia, and any attempt to promote hate towards any members of the human family.
About 100 people attended the Kentucky rally, including Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Jews and Presbyterians, according to the report. While abortion was mentioned, the state rally focused more on criminal justice reform, marriage and gender issues. Similar events were held in about 30 other cities on Monday, the report states.
The Judeo-Christian faiths teach that every human life is sacred because he/she is created in the image of God. However, some sects and clergy have strayed from the teaching by promoting abortion, which destroys an innocent human life in the womb.
In 2014, two pro-abortion Reverends, Dr. Alethea Smith-Withers and Harry Knox, wrote a column for the Washington Post arguing that people of faith should not oppose abortion.
Decisions about reproduction are morally complex, they wrote. And clergy do not always use Bible verses as political weapons a misrepresentation too often promoted in the media. The wisdom found in our faith traditions is rich, nuanced, and rarely absolute. Here is the good news: Most people of faith in the United States support access to compassionate abortion care.
Polls do not support their statement. A 2016 Gallup poll found a majority of Protestants, Catholics and Mormons believe that abortion is not morally acceptable. However, a majority of Jewish responders said abortion is morally acceptable.
Recently, one Christian denomination with a historically pro-abortion stance also decided to change. In May, United Methodists voted to end their affiliation with the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, which advocates for abortion on demand.
UM Action Director and Elected General Conference Delegate John Lomperis commented: This is a necessary and good step towards affirming that the unborn are persons of sacred worth. This also shows the UMC moving away from other liberal, declining, mainline denominations to embrace a new faithful, global identity.
It would appear so, yes.
The attackers almost always want abortions and sexual license of all kinds....
whatever else they want, it seems they put those right at or near the top of their “demands”
plainly, both their parents AND their church/synagogues have let them down... not provided them much, if any, guidance what makes for a valid human life
I agree, but the order is really "sexual license of all kinds and abortion." These women aren't getting pregnant by running down to the local sperm bank. And for almost every abortion is a man who didn't value human life. I'm not including married men whose wives sneak off to kill their children.
How’s the “reformation” (revolution) working out for you protestants????
Yeah, we do say, and we also point out that the same problem was FAR more prevalent in protestant churches......FAR more.
“The Rev. Mark Johnson of Central Baptist Church in Lexington said, I want you to know there are Baptists standing here with me.
http://m.state-journal.com/2016/09/12/clergy-call-for-finding-high-ground-on-kentucky-capitol-steps/
In 40+ years, I’ve never met a Baptist Reverend, but the church website describes itself as “A loving, healthy & progressive gathering of Christians”.
“Mark is the Senior Pastor of Central Baptist Church. He holds degrees from the University of Kentucky, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Lexington Theological Seminary. He is an Adjunct Professor with the Baptist Seminary of Kentucky.”
“During the early to mid-1990s a confluence of events led a number of Kentucky Baptists to seek new and inventive ways of training ministers that reflected the diversity of Baptist identity and worship in the Commonwealth and took into account shifting cultural realities. These events included:
changes in the theological direction and leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention, Kentucky Baptist Convention, and Southern Baptist seminaries;
the formation of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and the Kentucky Baptist Fellowship; and
the creation of new Baptist theological schools and houses of study in the South.”
Then there is:
“Rev. Charles Conkin
Associate Pastor
Charles is the Associate Pastor of Central Baptist Church. Charles has been a part of the pastoral staff since 2013. He brings a fresh perspective to the issues of many progressive Baptist congregations.”
In essence, the Kentucky Baptist Fellowship is a group of liberal baptists who broke from the SBC. Good luck finding out what they believe, but part of their “imagining” of Jesus seems to include homosexual marriage, divorce, women pastors, labor unions, government child care, etc.
“Hows the reformation (revolution) working out for you protestants????”
Quite well. How’s your Pope doing?
And even more 'Presbyterians'.
These simply cannot believe in the God of Scripture or that ALL Scripture was “God-breathed” and carefully communicated through holy men who were chosen by God, to communicate the message God wanted them to, when He wanted them to. *2 Timothy3:16-17, 2 Corinthians 3:3, 2 Peter 1:21...
If they did have faith that God is Who He said He is, and that He would judge them by what they deserve, NONE of these nominally religious people would be willful proponents of the depraved life styles and the murder (excruciatingly painful murder) of the most innocent and vulnerable among us!! If they truly believed in God, they could not push and advocate for this!
They are no more correct and no less depraved in their “religious” beliefs than any other religion, cult, or occult around the world. As with other cults in the worlds history, they are literally sacrificing children to the god of their own human perversion and depravity!
Many of these unborn, when they begin to feel extreme pain from the literal dismemberment and various other torture techniques depended on in an abortion, try to get away, sometimes flipping over and kicking and flailing from the pain they are experiencing. Many dead baby’s faces have facial expressions of extreme pain and sadness.
The opposite has also been observed, when baby’s have been seen turning their heads and smiling during a sonogram, sometimes when they hear beautiful music, or the sound of their mothers or fathers voice.
I know my daughter smiled during our sonograms and right from the start, when my wife and I started speaking to her! Doctors see this all the time in response to beautiful music and familiar voices.
Wow!
So they don’t believe life is from God, they don’t believe life begins at conception, and they don’t believe these little persons have a soul and spirit until they breath air on their own or their innocent and vulnerable lives are actually important to the mother, and they don’t believe these little ones can feel emotion or have senses until they are born, and THEY BELIEVE MANS WILL AND INSACIABLE LUST FOR MORAL DEPRAVITY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GODS WILL ...?!
While testifying before Congress, one of the foremost in this field of study testified that baby’s can feel pain down to at least 8 weeks.
This is anti-God and anti medical science!
Understood and agreed. Let me please add one more step -— they not only demand sexual license and abortion on demand -— but then they go back into church/ synagogue and demand approval/ blessing/ sanctification for these things. In a way it’s a good sign because they’re demonstrating some residual recognition that church/ synagogue are in some way related to at least some sort of “authority”. But it avails them little because they come back to church demanding the church/Bible/God change for them — rather than demonstrating any willingness to change their lives for the church/BibleGod. They can’t hear when they’re screaming demands. IMHO, they’ve got their basses ackwards. As the d saying goes, God gave us two ears but only one mouth and he hopes we’ll use them proportionately. And these people have no right demanding the church change its received teachings. If they don’t wish to try living in accordance with the church’s teachings, they can leave and even start their own outfits if they wish. And some have. I don’t have to approve of them all but they’re free to do that. There are already 35000 Denominations. Just leave the churches and synagogues that wish to follow Biblical moral teachings alone
A hundred people? I get more than that at my garage sales.
Most of them were undoubtedly the spouses and pals of the clergy on the stage or steps, plus state capitol employees on coffee break plus curious passers-by and tourists strolling the capitol grounds.
They claim the "crowd" was comprised of "Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Jews and Presbyterians"....give me a break.....how did they know who was what.....did they take a show of hands? What a bunch of Baloney Sausage.
The sparse crowd just showed that most religious folks are not interested in the heresy and lack of Biblical faith among the pathetic rally organizers and their sheep-like acolytes.
The Lord had harsh words for these pro-abort, pro-death clerics as well as for ANYONE who harms one of His children: "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck and he were drowned in the depth of the sea".
'Nuff said !
Leni
Unfortunately, throughout history, there is a cycle beginning with *(1) strong true decisive repentance and fundamental faith in God and His Son Christ and His propitiation/payment and atonement (fulfilled by the Lamb Christ at the cross and His resurrection Ephesian 2:8-9, 1 Corinthians 15) for our rebellion and immorality against God - and living in His ways (growth during times of persecution - think the early church in the time of the disciples), followed by *(2) societal and government acceptance, *(3) wealth and political influence and doctrinal and practical compromise, *(4) and finally societal and government rejection, often culminating in attempts to eradicate true Christianity.
This is terrible. They should be ashamed. I was shocked to see a FULL page ad in our newspaper from Catholics for Choice and they basically are saying the same thing. Abortion is “health care” and we should all be in favor of women’s “health”. Guess the health (life) of the OTHER human in the picture doesn’t matter.
“Is there no balm in Gilead?” There is no shame in the USA.
These clearly are NOT Christian pastors. One thing about the abortion and gay marriage issues - they certainly separate the wheat from the tares.
Thanks.
You got it 100% right.
Amen.
1. AMEN to that. The Bible is SOOOO clear on marriage and homosexuality. There is NO mistaking them. So, those who DEFY God's laws are just asking for it. I guess they simply don't care about what God asks of them.
Dumb question: Why would ANYONE be so stupid, foolish and arrogant as to DEFY God's laws? WHY on earth would anyone in his/her right mind listen to the great adversary?
2. They are VERY bitter vetches!
Because they have no fear of God and are thus unwise. "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom"
They suffer from the first and the worst of the seven deadly sins: PRIDE (arrogance).
For the ones following the Bible as the only inspired teachings of God needed for salvation, it is working out well.
For those who abandoned the Bible for the traditions of men, not so good.
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