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To: Iscool
They were building a church void of anyone from or in Rome...

There is one holy catholic apostolic Church from the days of the Jewish Apostles unto this day.

Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses one to seventeen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
boldness mine


Then we have this, and a traditional interpretation that this reference to Babylon is actually a reference to Rome with Marcus being Saint Mark, the human author of the book of Mark who transmitted the Gospel from the Apostle Peter.

But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand. The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

First Peter, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses five to thirteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
boldness mine

408 posted on 08/21/2016 7:20:25 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
There is one holy catholic apostolic Church from the days of the Jewish Apostles unto this day.

According to the Catholic religion...And there is only one Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from the days of the Jewish Apostles onto this day too...And there is only one Orthodox Church from the days of the Jewish Apostles unto this day...But the Baptist Church started BEFORE the days of the Apostles...

419 posted on 08/21/2016 7:50:32 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: af_vet_1981; Iscool
There is one holy catholic apostolic Church from the days of the Jewish Apostles unto this day.

Which one?

The Roman rite or the EO?

They both claim to be the original version of Catholicism and that the other is in schism.

Their doctrines are different, some in key areas.

Which one is correct and why?

They can't both be correct because they teach different things, they have disagreements over doctrine. So one has to be right and one has to be wrong.

Or they are both wrong.

One thing for sure, they both can't be right.

423 posted on 08/21/2016 8:01:27 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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