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To: ealgeone

I realize that you have trouble accepting Catholic Doctrine.

There was only one bloody death on the cross.

The Sacrifice of the Mass is a non bloody sacrifice that Jesus mysteriously allows the Catholic priest to perform Transubstantiation of the Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ.

According to the Bible, Christians gathered to partake in the “breaking of the bread” (Acts 2:42, 2:46, 20:17) on the first day of the week, the “Lord’s Day” (Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2). Sunday is the first day of the week, and also referred to by early Christian sources as “The Lord’s Day” because it is the day that Christ rose from the dead.

ST Paul in 1 Cor. 11:23-33).
For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

Again, the Early Church Fathers dealt with the heretics of the day;Ignatius warns them about the Gnostics, writing:

They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes.


392 posted on 08/21/2016 5:52:26 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

You ignore what a catholic priest says and just regurgitate the usual talking points. Amazing.


394 posted on 08/21/2016 5:54:49 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM

Are all of the ECFs in 100% agreement on this? You know why I’m asking.


395 posted on 08/21/2016 5:56:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM
Wow! Now you won't even look up the meaning of ‘remembrance’, so that you can continue in the blasphemy of pretending you eat Jesus to get His soul and His divinity in your via your alimentary tract.

Sadly, you don't see that for what it is, the most carnal misuse of What JESUS TAUGHT to show the spiritual essence of what He was about to do on the Cross. The passage in John 6 is not about The Lord's Table, but catholiciism insists it be carnally applied!

399 posted on 08/21/2016 6:11:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: ADSUM
The Sacrifice of the Mass is a non bloody sacrifice that Jesus mysteriously allows the Catholic priest to perform Transubstantiation of the Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ.

Then it's useless killing because without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins.

And if it's a bloodless sacrifice, then it's not one and the same as the sacrifice of Calvary because that was a bloody sacrifice.

And if the sacrifice of the mass is a bloodless one, then where does the blood that Catholics claim they drink come from?

400 posted on 08/21/2016 6:26:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM
A couple of observations on 1 Corinthians 11:20-34

Paul calls it the Lord's Supper...not the Mass nor Eucharist (v20).

Paul received this from the Lord (v23).

It is a remembrance of Him. Christ noted this after both the bread and wine.

In doing this we proclaim the Lord's death until He arrives (v26). Hence, this is the purpose of the Lord's supper. To proclaim His death until He comes again.

There is nothing in this passage that supports the roman catholic version of the Mass.

There is nothing supporting the roman catholic view that salvation occurs during this meal. If so, the implication would be salvation occurs over and over and over again every time the Lord's Supper occurs.

It is a remembrance of what Christ has done for us on the cross as noted by Paul.

The Greek word for remembrance is ἀνάμνησις. It means the following:

Cognate: 364 anámnēsis (from 363 /anamimnḗskō, "bring to mind") – properly, deliberate recollection, done to better appreciate the effects (intended results) of what happened; active, self-prompted recollection especially as a memorial (memorial sacrifice).

405 posted on 08/21/2016 6:53:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM
Ignatius warns them about the Gnostics, writing:

Ignatius' writings are known forgeries...Do you have any Catholic writings you can quote that are not known forgeries???

411 posted on 08/21/2016 7:27:40 PM PDT by Iscool
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