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To: Fantasywriter

Your comment: “Why is ***anyone*** in the Catholic church concerning themselves with how God will judge others?”

The mission of the Catholic Church is to lead all to salvation. The article was for guidance. It clearly states “Since the Lord alone sees into our heart, he alone will be our just judge.”

You can either learn from the teachings of the Catholic Church or choose to ignore them like many posters here.

It is you that are judging and impugning the Catholic Church on alleged sins of some and they could be just inclinations and not sins as most priests and nuns are celibate. Again as Jesus asked “are you without sin to cast the first stone?” I do not deny that there is sinful activity by some Catholics and they may risk their salvation by doing so. There are certainly other internal and organizational problems that the Church needs to fix.

I believe that the Catholic Church has continued for 2000 years to teach the moral religious doctrines that Jesus and the Apostles gave us. I believe that many outside the Catholic Church have rejected some of the teachings of Jesus by their personal interpretations.

The Catholic Church doctrine is very clear on sexual sins outside of marriage including homosexuality, adultery, divorce and remarriage, etc. We have followed the Truth of Jesus compared to the Protestant doctrines and practices.

Thank you for your prayers as we all need to follow Christ’s example and do God’s will. We will need God’s help to solve our problems.

God’s Peace be with you.


302 posted on 08/21/2016 9:54:59 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

I was not the person who confirmed the presence of a “Gay Lobby,” in Vatican City. That person was Francis. It was speculated at the time that he would only be speaking openly about such a lobby if he were getting ready to do something about it.

But that was in June of ‘13, and it is now August, 2016. Nothing has been done. Francis confirmed the presence of a powerful homosexual lobby within the Vatican itself...after which nothing happened.

Why did nothing happen? Why wasn’t there an outcry? The pope himself confirmed no less than a homosexual lobby, and there was no widespread reaction of shock and horror. There was no groundswell of opposition, demanding that the lobbyists for sin and evil—a particular kind of evil, btw, that caused God to destroy five entire cities with fire and brimstone—be expelled. Rather, Francis’ big confirmation was swept under the rug, and business as usual continued in Rome.

What kind of mindset is required to ignore and even forget about such a confirmation? What does it take for people who profess obedience to God to simply shrug off the presence and practice of a Gay Lobby, and act as if it were nothing out of the ordinary?

Look at your own reaction. Are you aghast that homosexual lobbyists are allowed to operate within Vatican City? Do you affirm that the Apostle Paul’s teaching was one-hundred percent correct, and that these lobbyists for a particularly perverted form of sin/evil MUST be expelled ASAP?

Nothing could be further from the truth. Instead, you want to focus on me. As if I’m somehow to blame, and if you can just manage to silence me, the Gay Lobby will be a non-issue.

It’s not about me. I have nothing to do with the presence and practices in Vatican City of the Gay Lobbyists. I did not confirm their existence. I only mentioned what your own pope confirmed, and pointed out the truth: that no action has been taken against these lobbyists for sin and corruption.

Why are you not more outraged at the presence of homosexual promoters within the highest echelons of Rome? Why are you not leading the charge to have them expelled, thus cleansing at least the Roman leadership of this abomination? Why does it take a non-Catholic to even mention these facts, much less to urge that action be taken?

I am not the problem. The Gay Lobby is the problem. Clean out the filth in your own upper echelons, before speculating on how God will deal with those who serve Him while ***NOT*** tolerating a Gay Lobby in their/our midst.


341 posted on 08/21/2016 12:43:38 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: ADSUM
The mission of the Catholic Church is to lead all to salvation. The article was for guidance. It clearly states “Since the Lord alone sees into our heart, he alone will be our just judge.”

Since when? Every Catholic I've ever known (including myself), said that their religion was a "personal thing". In other words, a cop out to avoid having to give testimony or evangelize. Ever notice also that Catholics cannot just publicly pray from the heart spontaneously? The only prayers they say are memorized repetitious prayers. Why is that?
420 posted on 08/21/2016 7:55:08 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Hillary is Satan's spiritual advisor.)
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