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To: ADSUM
This is an interesting glimpse into the mind of someone who does not understand authority. Authority does not come from tradition, it does not come from history, certainly it is not adaptable, authority does not have to be objective, authority is not adaptable, it either is or isn't, authority is for sure universal but that precludes it being local, authority has nothing to do with education in either the source of the authority or the people to whom the authority applies, in my finite mind authority is not human, it is however divine though it may have a human voice. If authority is not divine it is not authority it is simply the mingling of scripture with human philosophy.

Fr. Dwight Longenecker has given us interesting thoughts but they are incompatible with authority. Authority comes from God and yes His designated servants. Just because a council does not like what God has put in place does not give them authority to change it. I suspect that most people would like women to be ordained to the priesthood but if God says no, then no amount of discussion can make the answer “Yes” come from God.

While the Protestant world at least most of it claims scripture as their authority there are so many interpretations of scripture that in only the rarest of cases can the scripture be claimed as authority. Only the persons serving in their divinely appointed positions can say that “the scripture says this”!

Either the Pope is the conduit to Heaven or he is not if he is then nothing any other group has to say really matters, if he is not then the same holds true, then we are just making it up as we go along.

28 posted on 08/14/2016 5:46:57 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

Authority comes from God and yes His designated servants.

So Jesus said:

18k And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

I am not clear on “what council does not like what God has put in place”? Please explain.

How is the author’s analysis incorrect?

I am not aware of anything that the Catholic Church has changed of the teachings of Jesus or the Apostles.

The Pope is a human and a sinner and each of has a different perspective on things, but I sense that the Pope is trying his best to lead the Catholic church inspired by the Holy Spirit. He can be wrong and make mistakes.

The Catholic Church needs to be strong in moral values so that we can do God’s will and join Him in Heaven.

How are we just making it up?


36 posted on 08/14/2016 6:10:49 PM PDT by ADSUM
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