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Martin Luther was a ‘teacher of the faith’, say [Catholic] German bishops
Catholic Herald ^ | August 12, 2016 | Jonathan Luxmoore

Posted on 08/12/2016 3:59:59 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: rwa265

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls into heaven, especially those in most need of your mercy.

US?

Sounds like Mary needs some saving; too!


241 posted on 08/14/2016 4:57:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Do you believe His promise in John 5:24?

Yes.

242 posted on 08/14/2016 6:47:38 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Elsie
Sounds like Mary needs some saving; too!

Indeed. Blessed Mary needed a Savior because of her dark sin - just like every human.

She did not, however, become a demigoddess. This is just "tradition."

243 posted on 08/14/2016 6:50:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

Sounds like Mary needs some saving; too!


Only if you believe that those who have already entered into the life to come still need saving.


244 posted on 08/14/2016 8:40:34 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Elsie

It seems that some of our separated FR Catholic brethren think that proclaiming, “You are a cheery picker!”, let’s them off of the hook tom have to explain or even respond to others.


Well, you certainly seem to be a CHEERY picker. :-)


245 posted on 08/14/2016 8:43:51 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

She did not, however, become a demigoddess.


Agreed. She did not become a demigoddess.


246 posted on 08/14/2016 8:56:51 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: FourtySeven

Good!


247 posted on 08/14/2016 9:38:59 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It is simply an opinion that stands apart from Christ's own words and the rest of inspired Scripture.

It sounds like the 'greater piety' of those Jews who declared their gifts "Korban" that is, dedicated to God.

1 After this, Jesus addressed himself to the multitudes, and to his disciples; 2 The scribes and Pharisees, he said, have established themselves in the place from which Moses used to teach; 3 do what they tell you, then, continue to observe what they tell you, but do not imitate their actions, for they tell you one thing and do another -Matthew 23:1-3

Christ preached obedience, not rebellion. The spirit of obedience is humble and comes from God; the spirit of rebellion has another source.

248 posted on 08/14/2016 11:12:27 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.)
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To: TradicalRC

“Christ preached obedience, not rebellion. The spirit of obedience “

He did not command people to obey the Pharisees - nor support the Pharisees, when the substituted their tradition for God’s commands.


249 posted on 08/14/2016 11:55:59 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

Never, never even heard of it till yesterday. Must not have had any support.


250 posted on 08/14/2016 1:07:18 PM PDT by xone
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To: rwa265

I don’t agree, Luther’s writing on Mary are well known to well-read Lutherans. He was after all a professor in a Catholic school, what do you think he was taught? In retrospect, if they were over-archingly important to him, why did he not present them with the scriptural proofs? They just don’t pass scriptural muster so they aren’t doctrine.


251 posted on 08/14/2016 1:11:58 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone

You don’t agree that Lutherans are quiet on this point?


252 posted on 08/14/2016 2:48:42 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

I ran outta nits! ;^)


253 posted on 08/14/2016 3:16:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265

I think Jimrob took the mindreading part outta spellcheck.


254 posted on 08/14/2016 3:16:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265

spellcheck shudda KNOWN what I meant!!


255 posted on 08/14/2016 3:17:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
She did not become a demigoddess; merely...



 

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Ark of the Covenant,
Cause of Our Joy,
Cause of our Salvation, 
Comfort of the Afflicted,
Destroyer of Heresy,
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Favoured Daughter of the Father,
Gate of Heaven,
God-bearer, 
Health of the Sick,
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Holy Mary,
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Joy of the Just,
Majesty,
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Morning Star,
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256 posted on 08/14/2016 3:19:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
She did not become a demigoddess; merely a woman with SUPER powers!!


Let's try some easy math:


There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;

If merely 1% of them  'ask' Mary for help just once each day;

that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.

Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)

...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!

Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!

257 posted on 08/14/2016 3:21:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: xone

They’re selling for anywhere from $6.00 to $38.00. Surely somebody is buying them.

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Lutheran+rosary&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=Lutheran+rosary&tbm=shop


258 posted on 08/14/2016 3:27:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.b)
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To: ebb tide
Your search - Lutheran rosary - did not match any shopping results.

Suggestions:


259 posted on 08/14/2016 3:44:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s strange. The link still works for me on a different computer that I’m not even logged onto FR.


260 posted on 08/14/2016 3:50:48 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.b)
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