and who translated the bible Chapter and Verse, the RCC
who kept the bible in print during the middle ages, the RCC
when did your church start? 1500 - 1800’s??
I've translated much of it myself, as have thousands of others, including a great many translations of the complete Scriptures. I have almost 30 of those on my computer.
"who kept the bible in print during the middle ages, the RCC"
God used ordinary men - Jews and some Roman Catholics and for which I'm very grateful.
Can you imagine devoting years of your life to hand copying large books like Job or Ezekiel
"when did your church start? 1500 - 1800’s??"
My Church started in the Councils of God in eternity past. Why do you ask?
I notice your questions have nothing to do with the topic, but I'm grateful for the opportunity to give Glory to God.
and who translated the bible Chapter and Verse, the RCC who kept the bible in print during the middle ages, the RCC when did your church start? 1500 - 1800’s??
Meaning therefore we should submit to Rome, and thus believe what is utterly absent in Scripture? Which argument is as fallacious as arguing that the NT church needed to wholly submit to the Scribes and Pharisees since the Jews wrote and established as Scripture the writings which the the itinerant preachers the church with NT began relied upon.
Likewise fallacious is the premise that the church of Rome is the NT church which wrote the NT, as the former stands in basic contrast to the latter, and that the instruments and stewards of Holy Writ are the infallible interpreters of it, and that formal historical descent establishes validity or is necessary for it. Instead, as told to those who trusted in the former, "God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham," (Matthew 3:9) including men who like Peter, effectually confess saving faith in the Rock upon which the church is built. (petra: Rm. 9:33; 1Cor. 10:4; 1Pet. 2:8; cf. Lk. 6:48; 1Cor. 3:11; lithos: Mat. 21:42; Mk.12:10-11; Lk. 20:17-18; Act. 4:11; Rm. 9:33; Eph. 2:20; 1Pt. 2:4-8; cf. Dt. 32:4, Is. 28:16)
Among many other substantial errors, prayer to created beings in Heaven is nowhere exampled or taught in Scripture
despite the Holy Spirit inspiring the recording of approx. 200 prayers in Scripture, and with multitudes of angels for believers to pray to before the Lord's resurrection, and additional multitudes of ascended OT saints after, there is not one single prayer by any believer to anyone else in Heaven but the Lord. And which is what instruction on prayer to Heaven addresses, (Mt. 6:9) and to whom the Spirit cries ("Abba, Father," not Mama, Mother). And with the risen Lord Jesus being the only Heavenly intercessor, (1Tim. 2:5) and by whom they have direct access into the holy of holies in Heaven, and who is immediately accessible and supremely able to sympathize and enable believers to walk in victory. (Heb. 2:17,18; 4:15,16; 7:25; 10:19) To God be the glory. )
And only God is shown having the ability to hear from Heaven the multitudinous prayers of souls.
The fact that souls prayed to the Lord Jesus (Acts 7:59; 1Co. 1:2) is a testament to His deity, and who is the only heavenly intercessor btwn man and God, (1Tim. 2:5) and who ever lives to do so, (Heb. 7:25) and is immediately directly accessible and uniquely able to enable souls to endure and overcome. (Heb. 2:14-18; 4:14-16)
Moreover, elders and angels offering up prayers as a memorial before the judgment of the earth (Rv. 5:8; 8:3-5) is not that of them being prayed to, nor do human relations on earth equate to a full correspondence btwn heaven and earth.
And unlike with God, personal two-way communication between created beings always required both to be in the same place, even if via a vision.
You forget the command from the Apostle Paul:
And, btw, the RCC did not translate the bible contrary to what is constantly reported. Our Jewish forefathers provided Greek versions followed by others. It has always evolved through time.
Since your denomination did all of this, you should be able to point to it very easily.
Oh... wait -- there is a little pesky issue that your church has to deal with: God incarnate, Jesus Christ, taught his disciples (and thus, us) to pray, "Father..."
Not "Mother," "Mary," "Blessed Virgin," or "Saint Whatchahoosits of the Whatchamacallits."
Christianity began with Christ. Not the Roman Catholic Church. Being RC no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. (h/t to Rev. Graham).
Hoss
Let me reduce the amount of ignorance shown here.
The One, True Church did NOT 'translate' any chapters or verse at all.
They were ADDED later BY a Catholic; Stephen Langton, an Archbishop of Canterbury.
Langton put the modern chapter divisions into place in around A.D. 1227.