[Mrs. Don-o]

Gamecock, I like you, man, but you've disappointed me. We've been over all that and you know your charge isn't true.

As tersely as I can:

• If the Eucharistic drinking of Jesus' blood were forbidden, He wouldn't have said, over and OVER again, "drink My blood.". Do click the link.

• Calling "no man" father: #175

• Forbidding priests to marry: nobody is forbidden to marry except those who have taken a vow not to marry: i.e., voluntary vowed celibates. Thousands, over history tens of thousands of men who have not not taken vows of celibacy, have married and then received Holy Orders, which is to say, become ordained Catholic priests as well as deacons. Sheesh.

Thank you for giving me the sweet, bonny, blessit opportunity to say all this for the thousandth time.

(Join me in a cold beer?)

[Elsie]

He wouldn't have said, over and OVER again, "drink My blood.".

You'd have NO problem with this if you hadn't been 'taught' that this is LITERAL instead of figurative.

[jafojeffsurf]

Mrs. Don-o something I wrote that is fitting here in this thread because at the center of it is the prayer for Intersession of the Saints of which Mary is one very important one, the Mother of our Lord and the one whom freely submitted to the Holy spirit.

For those whom struggle with the prays for intersession from Saints in Heaven with our Lord.

Do you understand the Hell you are aspiring to? The Heaven I am aspiring to, will have the Saints present with the Lord of the Living. They are in Communion with Our Lord and we are in Communion with them both or so we should be striving to be. Do you really think the Lord of the living, whom has assigned special missions and function to his Children would Ignore their wishes? Do you think those Saints would ask for things of our Lord that would hurt Him? No they are as if One with the Lord which is why it is call Communion with him. How is it you visualize a Heaven where your Lord is a Dictator caring not for his Children wishes and doing everything himself, which is contrary to the Scriptures you read, for his Angels and Saint do have functions, missions, and authority he assigns them? Know then the heaven you contemplate and ascribe to is actually a description of Hell. As for me and My family, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, we will continue to do our best to be in Communion (Unity) with Our Lord and his Saints in Heaven. Please before your time is up in this world is up, return to Our Lord and his Children, your brethren.

God Bless