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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I am sorry that you do not understand. It is very clear.

Revelation 5:8 adds:

And when [the Lamb, Jesus Christ] had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holkding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints...

Here, we have “the twenty-four elders,” representing the people of God from both Old and New Covenants (12 Patriarchs + 12 apostles = “24 elders”) receiving and commiunicating “the prayers of the saints” ascending from earth as incense. So again, we have Christians this side of the veil referred to as “saints.”

Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful. 17 James 5

As all baptized Catholics are part of the Body of Christ, including the ones on earth, in purgatory and Heaven, we are told to pray for one another.

I am sorry that you do not see the value of including all members of the Body of Christ in your prayers. Do you not think about or pray for your parents, grandparents or others that have passed? The souls in Purgatory certainly need our prayers.

I have tried to show you, yet you do not believe or accept. Just like many do not accept the words of Jesus to eat and drink HIS BODY AND BLOOD for everlasting Life with God.


141 posted on 08/09/2016 1:30:57 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

“receiving and commiunicating “the prayers of the saints” ascending from earth as incense. “

Dude, you keep adding things not ther.

No where does it say the elders “received” prayers. You made that up.

Nowhere does it say the elders “communicated” prayers. You made that up.

Nowhere does it say the saints were on earth. You made that up.

Bro you made it all up when you couldn’t find a single verse to back up your claims. No even one verse to back up a pagan practice. Not a single verse that says what you claimed.

There are more than 30,000 verses in the Bible, but you haven’t found one yet.

Yet you still want to do as the pagans. You might ask why you can’t find a verse to support this practice.


142 posted on 08/09/2016 1:41:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ADSUM
As all baptized Catholics are part of the Body of Christ, including the ones on earth, in purgatory and Heaven, we are told to pray for one another.
 
 
HMMMmmm...
 
More undocumented non-'doctrine'.

159 posted on 08/09/2016 2:47:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM; aMorePerfectUnion
I am sorry that you do not see the value of including all members of the Body of Christ in your prayers. Do you not think about or pray for your parents, grandparents or others that have passed? The souls in Purgatory certainly need our prayers.

If our loved ones have passed away and they died without faith in Christ, there is nothing further that can be done for them.

23Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. 26Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, 28so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. Hebrews 9:23-28 NASB

Notice, this passage also rules out the Mass and the continual resacrifice of Christ.

165 posted on 08/09/2016 3:11:18 PM PDT by ealgeone
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