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To: imardmd1
"...a system of belief and government which is determined to kill Christians by decapitation..."

They were not specifically mentioned in the Talmud. That accusation against the Talmud has been a favorite of antisemitic religious writers, neo-Nazis, antisemitic communists and some radical Islamists. The Nazis of World War 2 burned every copy they could find.


118 posted on 07/22/2016 2:33:53 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop
They were not specifically mentioned in the Talmud. That accusation against the Talmud has been a favorite of antisemitic religious writers, neo-Nazis, antisemitic communists and some radical Islamists.

The reliance upon things not specifically mentioned in the Talmud seems to be a crutch that many on FR are counting upon.

124 posted on 07/22/2016 4:18:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: familyop; imardmd1; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ..
They were not specifically mentioned in the Talmud.

It seems that a lot of what you claim is not specifically mentioned in the Talmud.

Quite a house of cards to put your trust in.

Or sinking sand.

It appears that your favorite default to challenges is accuse of neo-Nazi-ism with almost NOTHING positive to back your denial of what you claim is misinformation about your cult.

Noahide is not mentioned in Scripture. The seven laws y'all claim non-Jewish people are under are nowhere given by God for non-Jews to live by.

In fact, the option God continually gave non-Jews was to identify with Judaism and practice it.

Y'all have ZERO Scriptural basis for your belief system.

125 posted on 07/22/2016 4:39:15 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: familyop; metmom; boatbums; Mark17; Elsie; Zionist Conspirator
They were not specifically mentioned in the Talmud.

We're not talking about the Talmud or Nazis. We're talking about the Noachidists, who are starting to gain traction to influence our government. And ZC appears to be one of them, if his comments are to be taken seriously.

Here are some extacts from an accounting of Noachidism": (click here)

Death Sentence Endorsed Today

It would be a mistake to believe that contemporary promoters of the Noahide Laws have
abandoned the Talmud doctrine that idolaters (i.e., Christians) be put to death for
practicing their religion. The Noah's Covenant web site calls for the banning of
Christmas and other Christian holidays, and endorses the call for the death sentence for
Christians. Noah's Covenant quotes Rabbi Schneerson from Volume VIII of Likkutei
Sichos, an anthology of the Schneerson's works. (71) Rabbi Schneerson in turn quotes Maimonides (the Rambam).

>>> "according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers."

>>> Maimonides, quoted by Rabbi Schneerson (63) A gentile

>>> is liable for the death penalty … if he has invented a religious holiday for himself …
>>> The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make
>>> 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger
>>> Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or [t]he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah
>>> (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing … and if he does make some
>>> new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the
>>> death penalty for this "

>>> Maimonides (the Rambam) (64)

and:

The translator, Rabbi Dr. H. Freedman, explains in a footnote that the expression "sons of Noah" means non-Israelites:

"The only place where death is explicitly decreed for non-Israelites is in Gen. IX, 6:
>>> Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed. It is a general law,
>>> applicable to all, having been given in the pre-Abrahamic era; his blood shall be shed
>>> must refer to the sword, the only death whereby blood is shed. "

Summing up, a further excerpt says:

>>> Axe or sword, the end result is the same.

>>> "Grunts" Push for Decaptitation

"If it seems fantastic that decapitations might be carried out in the US, the reader's attention is called to the July 26, 2003 edition of Defense Watch ("The Voice of the Grunt"). In an article entitled "Anti-Terror Weapon: Off With Their Heads," Robert G. Williscroft argues that the US military decapitate 'terrorists.' " >>> We should have beheaded Saddam's monster sons, and placed their pigskin-draped
>>> heads atop long poles in the center of Baghdad. Then, one by one, as we capture other
>>> high-ranking members of the old regime, their pigskin-draped heads should join the
>>> rotting heads of the Hussein brothers.
>>> Robert G. Williscroft (73)

"Of course, all of the "terrorists" so far are Gentiles. And once decaptition is used by American officials on Iraqi Gentiles, the precedent is established. Decaptition becomes an American practice, and may be used other Gentiles as well."

**********

So there we have it, this is what promulgating "Noachidism" amounts to.

134 posted on 07/22/2016 9:18:43 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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