Yet that didn't stop you from in the very next sentence, putting words into my mouth as it were;
>>>> If you're saying that the Protestant vs Catholic thing works for you, then have at it. <<<<
doing so even after you had previously taken a side, so to speak.
>>>> I'm just saying that I don't get it and that it seems like a very bad idea. <<<<
Huh? Take a side, favor a view (as you did, in promoting a view) but when that is challenged it's like doing so is automatically "a very bad idea"?
>>>> Lowly sinner that I am and never the smartest guy in any room, all I have is my perspective and that's all I'm offering. <<<<
Then please leave off inclusion of discussion of poster's motivations, unless your own should also become subject to examination, and discussion.
>>>> As far as the PvC family feud is concerned, I'm saying with me "there's no war here unless you've brought it with you." <<<<
War? I'm not supposed to recognize your own dismissive comments towards daniel1212, all the delving into and alluding to motivation (now extended towards myself also, it seems) is not just some form of low-level, and quietly stealthy forum discussion cunning, which if allowed to go on would leave you free to promote whatever points of view you hold, while characterizing challenges to those views as "bad" and "war"? Sounds and looks like an attempt to enforce one-way practice of double standards, to me.
>>>> For example, Mother Mary is one of those Mysteries, too, and there is quite a lot of Mother Mary data to sort through and account for and understand. <<<<
And where does that "Mother Mary" data come from? Why even capitalize the word "Mother" as a title?
There is One Father in Heaven. The incarnate Christ's own mother (Mary) was an earthly being.
You know, if the Greeks at Council of Ephesus had sought to promote an unreserved notion of Mary as capital "M" Mother of God, they could have very well chosen to coin terminology differing from what was chosen and agreed upon by those who were seeking to stem the perceived error of overemphasizing the human nature of Christ to the detriment of recognition of the Divine nature of Christ.
The word which was invented (Theotokos) translates more literally into English as "God bearer" rather than capitalized title Mother of God (God Mother), though the latter is where men almost immediately began to take it. Bear in mind here that the Greek language did not lack word for "mother". They deliberately avoided going fully "there" with it, in recognition of the aspect of the eternal nature of Christ, sharing as he does that transcendence [3 with the eternal Creator-- in fact, rather himself (Jesus) being that Creator, though it be puzzling to many how the Creator could remain enthroned in the Heavenlies while also taking on the ~quite literal~ form of a man, at the same time. Many stumble at this point, Muslims most acutely one could say, although Jews of old (and still today) pshaw (show contempt) for the concept, despite the remedy being extant among their own religious tradition which would cure the problem -- namely -- that among ancient Hebrew tradition there was long acceptance and promotion even that sons are equivalents to their own rightful fathers, according to flesh, and according to spirit too.
Moving on from that, soon after Council of Ephesus, Marionism developed by leaps and bounds, encompassing expressions in regards to Mary the kind and tone of which had formerly been singled out and identified as theological error.
To put it another way -- in tamping down one perceived error, namely the limiting of Jesus to have had the divine Logos (merely) dwell within himself -rather than Jesus be living personification of that Logos (Word), and in that way be the Immanuel, God with us in person, the correction opened a door for elevation of Mary to (eventually, through doctrinal development) be so nearly on par with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, to have become in function (theologically speaking) included as a fourth (though not openly declared thus "counted") member of the Trinity.
>>>> That's where I'm at these days. I prayed for Him to reveal Himself to me and that's what He did, right when I needed Him the most. <<<<
Hey, great. Glad to hear it. What's that got to do with "Mary"?
Dropping links to Marionist devotional material, while simultaneously posturing yourself as being above the fray, ain't gonna' fly.
Dang!
We didn't think y'all would notice!
--Catholic_wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary!)
Fwiw, you lost me early and I got stuck and couldn't get past it.
I'm still trying to figure out how you thought I was putting words in your mouth, along with my "dismissive comments towards daniel1212, all the delving into and alluding to motivation (now extended towards myself also, it seems) is not just some form of low-level, and quietly stealthy forum discussion cunning" and all the rest.
Whatever it is you think I've done, I hope you'll forgive my trespass against you and daniel2112 to whatever extent I merit.
Regardless, if whatever you said works for you, then what more is there for me to say? You're set.
Sorry for my not being able to understand what you tried so hard to tell me.
I've had a few rounds of major head trauma and I wonder about my self sometimes.