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To: metmom
Whoa. Nice long post, but your initial premise is wrong.

"So then, by that reasoning, (because a specific word or phrase is not found written down in Scripture it's not Scriptural), the Bible must not be “scriptural” and the Holy Trinity must not "scriptural". "

That's not my assumption. I accept "Trinity" AND "Incarnation" AND "Mother of God" AND "fellowshipping" with my dear metmom.

I'm not the one who thinks that truth is limited to "Sola Scriptura", remember? I'm a Catholic.

But "a term is illegitimate if it's not in my Concordance" seems to be your assumption, since you are trying to disqualify "Mother of God" because that particular phrase is not found in the Bible.

You're the one who says a phrase HAS to be in the text, ipsissima verba, or it's not really needed or not really legit. That has been your ultimate backup argument against "Mother of God."

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280 posted on 06/20/2016 3:00:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (For from Him and through Him and for Him are all things. To him be the glory forever! Amen. -Rom. 11)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; ealgeone
Again, there is misunderstanding on what Sola Scriptura means, so as a refresher for all:

What Does Sola Scriptura Mean?

The Reformation principle of sola Scriptura has to do with the sufficiency of Scripture as our supreme authority in all spiritual matters. Sola Scriptura simply means that all truth necessary for our salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in Scripture. It is not a claim that all truth of every kind is found in Scripture. The most ardent defender of sola Scriptura will concede, for example, that Scripture has little or nothing to say about DNA structures, microbiology, the rules of Chinese grammar, or rocket science. This or that “scientific truth,” for example, may or may not be actually true, whether or not it can be supported by Scripture—but Scripture is a “more sure Word,” standing above all other truth in its authority and certainty. It is “more sure,” according to the apostle Peter, than the data we gather firsthand through our senses (2 Peter 1:19). Therefore, Scripture is the highest and supreme authority on any matter on which it speaks.

But there are many important questions on which Scripture is silent. Sola Scriptura makes no claim to the contrary. Nor does sola Scriptura claim that everything Jesus or the apostles ever taught is preserved in Scripture. It only means that everything necessary, everything binding on our consciences, and everything God requires of us is given to us in Scripture (2 Peter 1:3).

Furthermore, we are forbidden to add to or take away from Scripture (cf. Deut. 4:2; 12:32; Rev. 22:18-19). To add to it is to lay on people a burden that God Himself does not intend for them to bear (cf. Matt. 23:4).

Scripture is therefore the perfect and only standard of spiritual truth, revealing infallibly all that we must believe in order to be saved and all that we must do in order to glorify God. That—no more, no less—is what sola Scriptura means.

“The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man’s salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men.” —Westminster Confession of Faith

This excerpt is taken from John MacArthur’s contribution in Sola Scriptura: The Protestant Position on the Bible.

283 posted on 06/20/2016 3:10:46 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Mother of Jesus" ***IS*** found in the Bible.
289 posted on 06/20/2016 3:33:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You're the one who says a phrase HAS to be in the text...

This is a nice try; but not quite nice enough.

Even a lurker knows 'what we are saying' is that ROME has stated that It's Mary is such a superb human being that she DESERVES a MUCH better 'title' than merely mother of Jesus.

317 posted on 06/21/2016 4:13:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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