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Famed Catholic philosopher: How can Christ and Our Lady read Amoris Laetitia without weeping?
Life Site News ^ | June 9, 2016 | Jan Bentz

Posted on 06/10/2016 1:56:37 PM PDT by ebb tide

In a recent article for the Italian news platform “Corrispondenza Romana”, renowned Catholic philosopher Josef Seifert strongly criticizes Pope Francis for statements in his recent Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

Seifert, a longtime ordinary member of the Pontifical Academy for Life and a close associate of St. John Paul II, explains that he criticizes the document because instead of invoking joy – as stated in the exhortation title – the papal document would actually make Jesus and his mother cry.

Many of the passages which seem merciful turn the teachings of the Church on their heads, according to Seifert. “In my opinion, they risk an avalanche of consequences which would be very harmful to the Church and to souls,” he writes.

He continues, comparing passages from the Gospels to paragraphs of Amoris Laetitia (AL).

Seifert begins with Jesus’ encounter with an adulteress. The Son of God does not condemn she who would have deserved death in Mosaic law, but shows himself to be merciful. Still, His forgiveness comes with a condition: “Go and sin no more.”

Image Dr. Josef Seifert Seifert argues: “In citing the synod, His successor Francis tells the adulterous woman that even if she continues to sin gravely, she should not feel herself excommunicated, and he does not deem it necessary for her to convert from her sinful ways, but to feel as ‘a living member of the Church’” (AL, 299).

What Francis says here, the philosopher explains, is not false, and it can be comforting to couples that the mercy of God is present with them. “Nevertheless,” he says, “the ‘go and sin no more’ is completely absent.”

He argues, therefore, that the document leaves out the core: the call for conversion.

The words of Pope Francis’ close collaborator, Jesuit Father Antonio Spadaro, shed a better light on these statements. Spadaro says, “Francis has removed all the ‘limits’ of the past, even in the ‘sacramental discipline’ and for the so-called ‘irregular’ couples: and these couples ‘become recipients of the Eucharist’.”

Further, Seifert points out that Jesus explicitly warns his flock 15 times of the peril of eternal damnation as the consequence of mortal sin; whereas his successor on the chair of Peter states: “No one can be condemned forever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel!” (AL, 297).

While St. Paul’s Letter to the Corinthians (6:9) states that no adulterer (who has not converted) enters the kingdom of God and therefore is doomed forever, Pope Francis “tells the adulterers that it is possible to live in the grace of God; through the Holy Eucharist they can grow in grace even without turning away from their adulterous life in conversion,” explains Seifert.

The philosopher recalls the Letter of St. Paul to the Corinthians (11:27-29) once more. Here, receiving Communion despite one’s state of unworthiness is clearly linked to condemnation: “So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the Body and Blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.”

“In other words, this is an act of sacrilege which puts one’s own soul in danger,” says Seifert. “Pope Francis, who does not even once mention the possibility of sacrilege or peril for the soul of a person who receives Communion unworthily, tells adulterers that in certain circumstances, which are to be considered individually, it is possible for those who live in adultery or in other ‘irregular’ unions to receive Holy Communion without changing their lives, and so to continue living as adulterers,” Seifert writes.

He notes that Pope Francis, in the text, interprets the commandments given by Christ – which are in and of themselves clear – only as expressions of an ideal which few can reach, as if they are mere evangelical suggestions, applicable only to those who seek a superior perfection, rather than as commandments valid for all.

“The Pope says that if the adulterous woman cannot separate herself from the adulterer, but lives together with him as sister and brother, then they would practice a style of life which could lead to ‘infidelity’ by her or her partner. According to the Pope, where there is a threat of infidelity between two adulterers who live as brother and sister, it would be better for the woman to have intimate relations with the man. In this case, therefore, it would be better to continue to live in adultery than as brother and sister,” concludes Seifert, citing AL 329 and a related footnote.

“How can Jesus and His most holy Mother read and link these words of the Pope with those of Jesus Himself and of His Church without crying? Therefore, let us cry with Jesus, with deep respect and affection of the Pope and with the deep pain that is born out of the obligation to criticize him in his errors,” Seifert writes.

The philosopher adds that his criticism is not unwarranted as the Pope himself called for a discussion and an open arena to express opinions.

“Someone could ask me how I, a wretched lay person, can criticize the Pope. I respond: the Pope is not infallible if he does not speak ex cathedra. Various Popes (such as Formosus and Honorius I) have been condemned for heresy. For the love and mercy of many souls, it is our holy duty to criticize our bishops, and therefore even our dear Pope, if they stray away from truth and if they damage the Church and souls. This duty was recognized by the Church since the beginning.”

He adds: “Pope Francis himself exhorts us to do exactly that: to criticize him instead of lying to or flattering the Catholic world. Let us take his words to heart. But let us do so with humility and with the love of Jesus and His Holy Church, that we may dry the tears of Jesus and glorify God in veritate.”

Josef Seifert grew up in Salzburg, Austria. He was rector of the International Academy of Philosophy in Irving, Texas and director of the International Academy for Philosophy in Liechtenstein. From 2004 to 2011, he was director of the Catholic University of Chile. He is married and has six children.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: adultery; francischurch; sacrilege

1 posted on 06/10/2016 1:56:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

this pope is to the roman catholic church as Obama is to America...

a thief come to kill, steal and destroy...


2 posted on 06/10/2016 2:01:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ebb tide

Well... the pope changed his mind. Open discussion time is over and the pope is now discussing “rigidity”.

Cling to Tradition and the teachings from antiquity forward, and you are rigid.

Implications are that Bishops who do not cooperate may get the broom.

Bring it.


3 posted on 06/10/2016 2:02:29 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Exactly.

It is getting impossible for me to separate this pope from Liberation Theology. It is his own doing, not mine.

Catholics are always relieved and joyful to receive a new pope. This pope had all that.

Systematically, he has dismantled too many bridges of the faith. We are in a pseudo schism now. We may as well make it official.

If it is not made official we risk scandalizing the world, letting them see us tolerating the intolerable foolishness.

The Magisterium needs to depose him, if that is possible.


4 posted on 06/10/2016 2:08:36 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: RitaOK

I think the pope is pope for life there is no retirement or firing built into the rules...

theres even been 3 popes at 1 time and they didn’t know what to do ...

the case of BXVI was unusual but it does show that a pope can choose to leave on his own..

but this 1 wont he isn’t humble like Benedict...he thinks hes God’s gift to the peon world..

and the people getting rid of a rogue pope who doesn’t believe the Bible but pushes Marxism ???


5 posted on 06/10/2016 2:21:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

What you say is true.

These circumstances we have witnessed recently, with Popes’ Benedict and Francis are so rare and even precedent-breaking that laity hardly knows of the real and legitimate remedies, or if for certain they do exist. We’re left to take the words of hear say, pointing fingers and claims. It’s unnerving.

It is so painful, scandalizing and confusing.


6 posted on 06/10/2016 2:39:27 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: ebb tide

Christ doesn’t weep. He judges the Church.
Mary doesn’t even know what is written on earth.


7 posted on 06/10/2016 2:45:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: ebb tide

Amen!

““Someone could ask me how I, a wretched lay person, can criticize the Pope. I respond: the Pope is not infallible if he does not speak ex cathedra. Various Popes (such as Formosus and Honorius I) have been condemned for heresy. For the love and mercy of many souls, it is our holy duty to criticize our bishops, and therefore even our dear Pope, if they stray away from truth and if they damage the Church and souls. This duty was recognized by the Church since the beginning.””


8 posted on 06/10/2016 2:54:52 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution, A Moral People, and Return to On Nation UNDER God!)
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To: ebb tide

The homosexual takeover of the RCC is complete.


9 posted on 06/10/2016 2:55:20 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: ebb tide
wow, making Jesus cry? thats pretty serious

Seifert begins with Jesus’ encounter with an adulteress. The Son of God does not condemn she who would have deserved death in Mosaic law, but shows himself to be merciful

John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope.
10 posted on 06/10/2016 3:07:11 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Mary doesn’t even know what is written on earth.

Where is that in the Bible?

11 posted on 06/10/2016 3:17:43 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: Campion
"Mary doesn’t even know what is written on earth.

"Where is that in the Bible?

Thank you. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible to indicate Mary is aware of anything that happens on earth. Any belief to the contrary is made up out of whole cloth.

12 posted on 06/10/2016 3:26:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Never ceases to amaze how roman catholicism works "mary" into the conversation the vast majority of the time.

I am quite sure Christ is more than capable of handling all on His own.

13 posted on 06/10/2016 4:21:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s right.

Jesus isn’t a wuss.

All anyone has to do is read the first three chapters of Revelation.

All this *you’re making Jesus cry* nonsense gags me.


14 posted on 06/10/2016 5:07:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Jesus is more like David Banner, “Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.”


15 posted on 06/10/2016 5:16:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ebb tide

bump


16 posted on 06/10/2016 5:59:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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