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To: Borges
Judaism means that Jews follow the 613 commandments and Gentiles follow the Seven Laws of Noah or the Noachide laws

I'm not trying to be contentious, just sincerely want to know:

Are there negative or long term consequences for disobeying or even ignoring one or more of the 613 of these laws?

I just looked up the 613 laws, I read many but not all of them but don't understand how any human could keep all of them.

The 7 laws to be a righteous gentile are much easier to keep, so are there different rewards or punishments for being a righteous gentile or a law keeping Jew?

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment you may give for my ignorance.

145 posted on 06/15/2016 9:56:26 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Crooked Hillary's going down and I aint talkin about, on Huma.)
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To: Graybeard58; Zionist Conspirator

ZC could probably answer this question better than I. I believe that it’s not possible to keep all 613 till after the Messiah comes and the Temple is rebuilt.


146 posted on 06/15/2016 10:53:01 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Graybeard58

A person (Jew or non-Jew) anguishes his soul when he fails to follow God’s laws. A soul contaminated by sin in this life will need a cleansing and rectification before moving on in the next life. This cleansing is sometimes seen by our egos in this life as punishment.

One good starting point is

http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380332/jewish/The-Mitzvot-of-Non-Jews.htm


148 posted on 06/15/2016 1:33:01 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Graybeard58; Borges; Zionist Conspirator
I just looked up the 613 laws, I read many but not all of them but don't understand how any human could keep all of them.

No human can. If they can they aren't human (HINT).

Apparently a just God is also going to ding you for spelling His name, "G-O-D" instead of "G_D" as the Pharisees nudge Him.

The 7 laws to be a righteous gentile are much easier to keep, so are there different rewards or punishments for being a righteous gentile or a law keeping Jew?

Did Moses miscount the Ten Commandments?

And Number 11:

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."~ John 13:34

151 posted on 06/15/2016 2:45:12 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Graybeard58

Here’s what the Bible says about the ability to obey God’s commandments:

Deuteronomy 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.

12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.


154 posted on 06/16/2016 6:13:09 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Graybeard58

Are there negative or long term consequences for disobeying or even ignoring one or more of the 613 of these laws?


Paul addresses this question in his letter to the Galatians:

We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Galatians 2:15-21


155 posted on 06/16/2016 8:12:23 AM PDT by rwa265
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