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To: Elsie
1) The Promises of the Rosary are not Catholic doctrine. It involves Private Revelation. It is certainly not "defined."

2) Nevertheless: since the Rosary entails a very strong adherence in faith and devotion to Christ ---and Mary doing what we all do for each other, offering intercessory prayer on our behalf --- it all comes down to intercessory prayer to God, availing much.

Any other interpretation would be heretical, would it not?

421 posted on 06/11/2016 2:54:10 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. " - James 5:16)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Promises of the Rosary are not Catholic doctrine. It involves Private Revelation. It is certainly not "defined."

Yet MILLIONS worldwide believe it!

Can you give me any LOGICAL reason WHY they do so?

422 posted on 06/11/2016 3:49:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
...and Mary doing what we all do for each other, offering intercessory prayer on our behalf...

Mary is DEAD!


Any other interpretation would be heretical speculation, would it not?

423 posted on 06/11/2016 3:50:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
1) The Promises of the Rosary are not Catholic doctrine. It involves Private Revelation. It is certainly not "defined."

2) Nevertheless: since the Rosary entails a very strong adherence in faith and devotion to Christ ---and Mary doing what we all do for each other, offering intercessory prayer on our behalf --- it all comes down to intercessory prayer to God, availing much.

Any other interpretation would be heretical, would it not?

You may want to check out these pages regarding the popes on the rosary. http://campus.udayton.edu/mary/poperosary/popesandrosary.html

https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters/2002/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_20021016_rosarium-virginis-mariae.html

2. It has always been the habit of Catholics in danger and in troublous times to fly for refuge to Mary, and to seek for peace in her maternal goodness; showing that the Catholic Church has always, and with justice, put all her hope and trust in the Mother of God.

https://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_01091883_supremi-apostolatus-officio.html

However, The Word tells us:

Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding. Proverbs 3:5

Trust in Him at all times, O people; Pour out your heart before Him; God is a refuge for us. Selah. Proverbs 62:8

There's a whole bunch more passages that tell us to place our trust in the Lord.

No where....repeat, no where in the Word are we told to place our trust in anyone other than Him.

No where in the NT do we have an admonition to place all of our trust in Mary.

In the quote from leo xiii, change out Mary and insert Baal or any other name.

Hopefully this illustrates why the practice of relying upon Mary for salvation or placing "all of your trust in her" goes against the Word.

436 posted on 06/12/2016 10:30:15 AM PDT by ealgeone
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