[terycarl]

Your own church can declare your marriage is null after you divorce! So, you CAN be no longer married. And; every once in a while; if it REALLY feels like it; the OTC can EXcommunicate one of it's members. Yet they STILL are considered by some Catholics to STILL be a CAtholic? HMMMmmm...

Nope, if a marriage is annulled, it never took place from the beginning. If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

[boatbums]

If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

And if someone excommunicates themselves (latae sententiae)?

[metmom]

Nope, if a marriage is annulled, it never took place from the beginning. If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

Nonsense.

If they took marriage vows, be them Catholic, Protestant, whatever, they made a vow with their own mouths.

A vow is a vow.

No legal contract is ever considered void because one of the parties later declares that they had no intent on keeping it in the first place, that they went into it with the intent to deceive.

They are still legally bound by the contract they entered into.

The Catholic church is just using weasel words as an excuse to give Catholic couples a divorce, a breaking of the vows they made before their church and GOD, without calling it a sin and without excluding them from participating in church.

After all, if the church stuck to their guns about not breaking marriage vows, they'd be cutting off their noses to spite their face. They'd be alienating those very people they depend on for money.

[metmom]

If the church excommunicates someone, they are no longer Catholic, it doesn't matter whether or not other Catholics believe it or not.

Which totally flies in the face of claims made by your fellow Catholics that *once a Catholic, always a Catholic.*

And that being baptized as a Catholic leaves an indelible mark on your soul, as you yourself have claimed in the past yourself.

Can you all just get together some time and decide just what it is your church teaches and what you believe?

Considering that y'all claim to be unified in the Catholic faith, there sure are bigger disagreements and doctrinal positions and theological weirdness than I see exist between non-Catholics on this board.

[Elsie]

Nope, if a marriage is annulled, it never took place from the beginning.

 

But; if you are EVER baptized Catholic; nothing can be done to UN-make you Catholic; Right?

 

 

Your #727 vanished; but it's shadow was left behind:

 

Metmom was, and therefore still is, a Catholic....as are you. You cannot cease to be male or female (although some are trying) and you cannot cease to be Catholic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is this going to be another verga #160 moment?

Metmom was, and therefore still is, a Catholic....as are you. You cannot cease to be male or female (although some are trying) and you cannot cease to be Catholic.

Is this going to be another verga #160 moment?