Why Does Jesus Call the Father Greater If We Teach That the Members of the Trinity Are Equal?

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-23-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[terycarl]

Maybe that’s what catholics are taught. After all, since it is not Christianity, catholiciism can teach the adherents anything the magicsteeringthem approves.

Catholicism was, and still is the only true and complete form of Christianity on Earth....all of the "johnny come lately" protestant versions of Christianity are either incomplete or in error.

[MHGinTN]

LOL, that’s why your magicsteeringthem has added so many ‘traditions’ and dogmas, hundreds and thousand years AFTER the death of the Last Apostle, John. Your religion has much in common with Mormonism. Did you know that?

[ealgeone]

Catholicism was, and still is the only true and complete form of Christianity on Earth....all of the "johnny come lately" protestant versions of Christianity are either incomplete or in error.

Then how do you respond to this? Is this catholic teaching? It was posted by a fellow catholic of yours.

>>When God came into existence there was nothing else all was void. His first thought must have been self awareness. The only possible outcome of an omnipotent being becoming self aware would be for that awareness to be a mirrored reflection or that omnipotent perfection.

>>When the second being instantly became sentient there was no longer the void, There was only the "Father." The "Father" loved the "Son" with a perfect all powerful love and the "Son" loved the "Father" with an identical love. The love that proceeded from both the "Father" and the "Son" was also Omnipotent and perfect. As the "Father" and "Son" are both sentient there love must be sentient as well. This sentience is the Holy Spirit.

[terycarl]

How ironic that a self-proclaimed agnostic is demanding answers and then sitting in judgment on those answers that he receives as not being good enough for him.

you, of all people making a statement like this......amazing!.

[terycarl]

(I could post a long list of their fabrications handed down by their magicsteeringthem, with dated years of origin), taking it further from Christianity, from the Ekklesia Jesus established and continues to build.

No you can't.

[metmom]

Why?

I’m not an agnostic nor ever claimed to be.

[metmom]

Sorry Elsie.

[terycarl]

LOL, that’s why your magicsteeringthem has added so many ‘traditions’ and dogmas, hundreds and thousand years AFTER the death of the Last Apostle, John. Your religion has much in common with Mormonism. Did you know that?

Mormonism sprang up l,800 years after Catholicism and 200 or so years after Protestantism and they don't like either.

Catholics are protected from error by Christ's promise to them, what you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven and what you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven......do you think that He would have made that promise and then allowed errors to be promulgated????

[terycarl]

Catholicism was, and still is the only true and complete form of Christianity on Earth....all of the "johnny come lately" protestant versions of Christianity are either incomplete or in error. Then how do you respond to this? Is this catholic teaching? It was posted by a fellow catholic of yours. >>When God came into existence there was nothing else all was void. His first thought must have been self awareness. The only possible outcome of an omnipotent being becoming self aware would be for that awareness to be a mirrored reflection or that omnipotent perfection.

do you really propose that I believe that everything that any Catholic says is infallible.....sheesh.

[Tennessee Nana]

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[MHGinTN]

When you ,iss-apply His words, your religion allows anything to become part of your religion, like the following:

prayer for the dead, worship of saints, a pagan magic act called Mass, worship of Mary (that one was put in your religion about 432AD), the doctrine of purgatory, the service mandated to be in Latin, celibacy of the 'priesthood' (that one came a thou8sand years after the fact, 1074), etc. Yes, you are in a religion created by men over centuries, to empower the org you call Mother Church (seen described in Revelation 17).

[metmom]

do you really propose that I believe that everything that any Catholic says is infallible.....sheesh.

I don't see that you have any other option.

After all, you just got done telling us in the post immediately before that "Catholics are protected from error by Christ's promise to them, what you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven and what you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven......do you think that He would have made that promise and then allowed errors to be promulgated????"

So which is it? Protected from error or not?

You can't have it both ways. Either it's protected from error, infallible, or it's not.

Honestly, the mental gymnastics Catholics engage in to rationalize the contradictory teachings and beliefs they claim about their church is absolutely staggering in its proportions.

[terycarl]

Why? I’m not an agnostic nor ever claimed to be.

because you, like the agnostic, make unusual claims, VERY unusual criticisms of Catholicism, demand answers to non-existant situations and imaginative facts.

You had the truth in your hands and decided that you were far more able to interpret Christianity than was the 2,000 year old church which Christ PERSONALLY founded. You decided, somehow, that you could leave the church and determine, on your own, what was and was not true Christianity. You have the right to do so, of course, but that road has been traveled by many others, Luther, Zwingley, Calvin, Wesley, Smith, Eddy, Henty VIII, etc ALL of which lead to nowhere.

[terycarl]

After all, you just got done telling us in the post immediately before that "Catholics are protected from error by Christ's promise to them, what you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven and what you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven......do you think that He would have made that promise and then allowed errors to be promulgated????" So which is it? Protected from error or not?

The Catholic church, as an institution is protected from error....individual Catholics, you for example, are OBVIOUSLY not protected from error...

[ealgeone]

Are you saying verga is in error in his #160 post?

[ealgeone]

See post 160.

[Mark17]

Nice pic Elsmeister. I would say it looks like a C-130J model, except the C-130J does not have a T tail, and only 6 bladed props, not 8. 😀

[Mark17]

The two who admit to NOT being born again...

Wait a minute Cool dude. I thought I heard a rumor, that Jesus said that if a man wasn't born again, he would never see the kingdom of God? What will he see then? Correct me if I am wrong bro. 😄😀😆

[Mark17]

Catholicism was, and still is the only true and complete form of Christianity on Earth....

I disagree bro. I prefer the Navigators. That way I don't have to try and bluff my way into Heaven. 👍

[Mark17]

individual Catholics, you for example, are OBVIOUSLY not protected from error...

I disagree bro, because it appears you are implying that MM is a Catholic. I do not think that is true. I know I am not. That way, I know I don't have to bluff my way into Heaven. I don't think MM does either.