Ten Points of God's Healing

05-23-16 | Frank Broom

[metmom]

Actually, I want to be in perfect health now with a young beautiful body.

Hasn’t happened yet.

Maybe if I throw a temper tantrum and stamp my feet at God, He’s come through.

[Elsie]

Plead with Mary.

I hear that she can work miracles!

[MHGinTN]

Makes note of tens of thousands of prayers from devout Catholics around the entire planet, every minute of every day. Goddess-like don’tcahknow

[metmom]

Rumor has it.

[HossB86]

Plead with Mary.

I hear that she can work miracles!

Or, call your FRiendly neighborhood Net Pope!

:D

Hossus I

[imardmd1]

Still lurkin’ . . .

[imardmd1]

Really excellent link! (Nehemiah 8:8)

[imardmd1]

After all, if it’s His will to prosper us, then He needs to get moving on it.

Less is more.

[Iscool]

I think it's 'talking' about the collective group of believers; because it is quite obvious that not EVERY believer has these gifts'.

After calling on the Lord to save me I came in thru the Pentecostal church...I am all to familiar with those scriptures you cited...I was baptized by a Pentecostal preacher...An those scriptures of course are to the Gentile church...

However, the scriptures I cited are not to the Gentile church...They are to the Jewish church...The Jewish church that started out in Jesus' ministry and prophetically for the Jewish church that will come into existence during the Great Tribulation AFTER the Rapture of the Gentile church...

Taking up poison snakes and drinking poison are NOT prescribed for the Gentile church...They have one purpose and one purpose only...They are for a sign...A sign to the Jews...The Jews then and during the Tribulation will require signs...The Christian Gentile church does not require any signs to have faith in Jesus...We walk by faith, not by sight...

I realize my views on some of the scripture are not 'main stream'...There are numerous Independent Baptist churches that believe and teach what I believe...To reconcile ALL of the scripture given to us, I don't see any other way to look at these things...

[Iscool]

Gee...anyone can patchwork quilt snippets of out-of-context verses and pretty much make them say almost anything they want.

How about the above??

Aren't you the guy who believes and teaches there are no Christian souls in heaven???

[Mark17]

Or, call your FRiendly neighborhood Net Pope!

:D

Hossus I

Or Net Pope number 2.

😀😆😃

[Elsie]

They read from the Book of the Law of God, making it clear and giving the meaning so that the people understood what was being read.

What!?

Weren't their 'traditions' working well enough for them?

[Elsie]

However, the scriptures I cited are not to the Gentile church...They are to the Jewish church...

But you typed: We're talking every believer here:

[Elsie]

Aren't you the guy who believes and teaches there are no Christian souls in heaven???

Yeah; I am the fella that produces lots of Scripture that tends to indicate this...

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Psalm 13:3
Look on me and answer, Lord my God. Give light to my eyes, or I will sleep in death,

 

Psalm 90:5
Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death— they are like the new grass of the morning:

 

Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
 
 
John 11:12-13
His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

 

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery:

We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.

For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

 

Ephesians 5:14
This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”

 

1 Thessalonians 4:13
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.
 

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SOMEbody has to be the DEAD IN CHRIST that rise from tombs when Jesus returns.

[Elsie]

Daniel 12:2

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

[HossB86]

I think we need to open offices. Or, would that be "Virtual Vaticans"?

Hoss

[imardmd1]

They read from the Book of the Law of God, making it clear and giving the meaning so that the people understood what was being read.

What!?

Weren't their 'traditions' working well enough for them?

I guess not.

For all the people wept, when they heard the words of the law.

[Iscool]

Ephesians 5:14 This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”

This is your soul sleep...

Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

So Paul is standing in the cemetery encouraging the souls of dead people to awake and rise??? Telling them not to get drunk??? To redeem the time and be filled with the Spirit???

I would suggest the sleeping dead in these verses are not dead at all...Just dead to Jesus Christ...

1 Thessalonians 4:13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.

SOMEbody has to be the DEAD IN CHRIST that rise from tombs when Jesus returns.

These people who are dead in Christ are a different group than those in Eph 5:14...These people are actually dead...Dead Christians...But it is not their souls who are sleeping...It is their dead bodies that are said to be sleeping...And yet;

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

Sleeping/dead Christians God will bring with him to the Rapture...

Consider Lazarus and the rich man...Lazarus went to Paradise while the rich man was in torment, after they died...And since a dead body can not feel pain nor pleasure it is speaking of their souls which are certainly not asleep...

The point is, many of us have searched the scriptures diligently and found things that others have not...ALL scripture must be able to be reconciled...I usually try to do that when I post scripture and I certainly do not 'cherry pick' scripture to create a false truth or doctrine as you suggest I do...Some of my positions are based on scriptures that many people don't like to discuss...

I have been on this board since 1998 as a born again, Independent Baptist Christian...I don't cherry pick verses...Do you???

[Elsie]

WHAT!!!???

Oh; that was NOT orifices...

Never mind...

[Iscool]

Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

Read that verse many times...How do you reconcile that and other similar verses with the scriptures that clearly show Christian souls go to heaven when we die???