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10 Lies Christians Believe
Unsealed.org ^ | 5/17/16 | Gary

Posted on 05/17/2016 11:34:00 AM PDT by amessenger4god

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To: G Larry

I agree with both James and Paul.
Our salvation is by grace thru faith alone. Through that faith, we will begin to have a heart longing for God/Christ and in turn produce those “works” that help the Kingdom.


41 posted on 05/17/2016 12:59:08 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

>>Wait, I thought it was made abundantly clear to us earlier this year that if you didn’t vote for Ted Cruz, then you weren’t really saved?

I believe the legalism used there wasn’t that voting for Cruz would save you. It was just that not voting for Cruz is proof that you are not saved.


42 posted on 05/17/2016 12:59:56 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: amessenger4god

Really outstanding!

Thanks for posting!


43 posted on 05/17/2016 1:00:26 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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To: amessenger4god
Thank you for sharing your opinions, your version of faith, and your use of some version of the bible.

Moving right along....

44 posted on 05/17/2016 1:11:03 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I agree with both James and Paul. Our salvation is by grace thru faith alone. Through that faith, we will begin to have a heart longing for God/Christ and in turn produce those “works” that help the Kingdom.

Well put. That's certainly how I understand it. And, at the same time, for a professing "believer" to live a life that fails to exhibit any such "works" reasonably gives rise to the question whether said "believer" does indeed now possess that "heart longing for God/Christ."

That is how I understand "faith without works is dead": i.e., absent any evident "works" (any "fruit," as it were), it may be the case -- may be; God knows -- that, in truth, saving faith has always been lacking.

Cf., e.g., 2 Corinthians 13:5.

45 posted on 05/17/2016 1:12:13 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Agreed!

And to those who would be justified by works:

"I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" - Galatians 2:21

Really, for all those who are arguing on here about faith vs. works, I cover the issue in very great detail here.

There are three views regarding reconciling faith and works, all of which people can find individual verses for to back up their claim:

1. Faith and works both necessary for salvation. Accounts for passages such as James 2, but largely ignores, discounts, or reinterprets virtually all of the Epistles and the Gospel of John.

2. A fruitless faith is necessary for salvation. Obviously doesn't account for James 2 and some of what Jesus said in the gospels.

3. Faith apart from works is necessary for salvation and such faith is evidenced by works. Reconciles all scriptures.

This short video does a good job explaining this issue.


46 posted on 05/17/2016 1:12:40 PM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: Louis Foxwell
Another fraud is Jesus preached and healed for 3 years. It was actually one year.

I don't think either contention can find biblical support. It doesn't matter in crucial issues of Christianity.

47 posted on 05/17/2016 1:14:13 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: pgyanke

Great post.

The “easy believism” cult has been the ruin of Christianity in the 20th Century and beyond.


48 posted on 05/17/2016 1:14:13 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: afsnco
The whole “don’t judge” thing is even more ridiculous when Matthew 7 is read just a little further down the chapter:

Amen. It's deliberate, willful, deceitful omission to fail to continue with the passage.

Jesus thought so highly of judging that he insisted that we do it correctly, or not at all.

49 posted on 05/17/2016 1:14:13 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: fwdude

The length of the public ministry of Jesus was one of the earliest questions which arose in the study of the four gospels. In the second and third centuries it was not uncommon to find the answer in the passage from Isaiah (lxi.1, 2), which Jesus declared was fulfilled in himself. “The acceptable year of the Lord” was taken to indicate that the ministry covered little more than a year. The fact that the first three gospels mention but one Passover (that at the end), and but one journey to Jerusalem, seems at first to be favorable to this conclusion, and to make peculiarly significant the care taken by Luke to give the exact date for the opening of Jesus’ ministry (iii.1, 2). In fact, the second century Gnostics, relying apparently on Luke, assigned both the ministry and death of Jesus to the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, — an interpretation which may have given rise to the widely spread, early tradition, found, for example, in Tertullian (Ante-nicene Fathers, in.160), which placed the death of Jesus in A.D.29, during the consulship of L. Rubellius Geminus and C. Fufius Geminus.


50 posted on 05/17/2016 1:20:49 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: amessenger4god
Nice list. Similar audio message from Life.Church.
51 posted on 05/17/2016 1:24:45 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: fwdude

Agreed.

It’s entirely understandable that the wicked would try to throw that verse in our teeth. It’s completely not understandable that Christians who apparently haven’t read the Bible agree with them and allow them to do so.

And just a little further down from verse 6 are verses 15 & 16:

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

How can we “beware false prophets” unless we judge them as false prophets because of their “fruit?” It’s utterly ridiculous that Christians let the wicked shut them up in this way.


52 posted on 05/17/2016 1:24:54 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: I want the USA back

LIES! you want lies?
1. Research why Easter was 1 month earlier than Passover this year.
2. The 7 holy Feasts, Passover /Unleavened Bread/ Pentecost are Jewish feasts...
3.Christ was not Crucified on Friday but Wednesday.

4. Christ was not born on in the Winter but in the Fall.
5. Jesus preached the Gospel but it’s not the Gospel the church’s teach

OK I gave enough to help anyone searching for the truth. These are all lies I promise. You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.


53 posted on 05/17/2016 1:25:24 PM PDT by ladyL
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To: delchiante

YES, inductive study reaps dividends!! Interesting in light of the tribulation and end times 1260 days the two witnesses.


54 posted on 05/17/2016 1:28:30 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: amessenger4god

BKMK


55 posted on 05/17/2016 1:29:01 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
"...Sounds like a great church!

One where Satan reigns and all sorts of idolatry is rampant..."

Yes, that's the one.

I used to live across the street from Joel Osteen's church. I went once. Ever since then I listen closely to what the preacher says, and ask myself if it is Bible-based.

I am critical and cynical.

So when I bag on my church, It is mostly against the new attendees, not the message, which is about par nowadays.

It just doesn't sit well when I see girls dressing overtly sexy on Sundays.

56 posted on 05/17/2016 1:49:55 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

+1. Well said.


57 posted on 05/17/2016 1:55:31 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: amessenger4god

bump


58 posted on 05/17/2016 2:04:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: I want the USA back

Prove that assertion ... using the scriptures, God’s Word. I’ll offer, first, that God illustrates His Truths with Numbers 21:4-9 and John 3:14-18, Jesus teaching. Then we see graphic illustration of the truth taught by Jesus with the Day of Pentecost preaching and the preaching in the house of Cornelius. The Holy Spirit of God is not like a yoyo.


59 posted on 05/17/2016 2:10:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: amessenger4god
Beautiful expounded. Thank you.

BTW, when Abraham told the company to wait at the foot of the mountain while he and his beloved son went up for the sacrifice, Abraham told the entourage 'they' would come back down shortly and to wait for 'them'. Abraham sacrificed his beloved son in his faith that God would keep His promises through the son from Sarai, even as he went to sacrifice him on that mountain. It is ALL by faith, not the works.

60 posted on 05/17/2016 2:21:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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