[Talisker]

Do you believe the Nicene Creed when you say it publicly ?

I don't think you understand the issue - it's not the terms and declarations, it's the definitions of those terms and declarations, and even deeper, whether any Catholic has the right to define those things for themselves in any way. But thanks for caring enough to take a stab at it, so few even do that.

[af_vet_1981]

I think the issue is faith in the Messiah. Everything flows from believing what he said.