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Envy is sorrow, sadness, or anger at the goodness or excellence of someone else because I take it as lessening my own. The key difference is that with envy (unlike with jealousy) I do not merely want to possess the good or excellence you have, I want to destroy it.
1 posted on 04/19/2016 6:53:18 AM PDT by Salvation
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Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 04/19/2016 6:54:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Really good teaching. All the more because the difference between jealousy and envy never occurred to me! I learned something new and useful!

Thank you Salvation, and thank you Msgr. Pope.


3 posted on 04/19/2016 7:03:26 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Salvation

Without envy, the Left has no platform. I expect it will continue to be a signature “virtue” of progressivism.


4 posted on 04/19/2016 7:07:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Salvation
In traditional theology, envy is quite different (cf Summa II IIae 36.1) from jealousy. Envy is sorrow, sadness, or anger at the goodness or excellence of someone else because I take it as lessening my own. The key difference is that with envy (unlike with jealousy) I do not merely want to possess the good or excellence you have, I want to destroy it.

There's one thing that the socialists and the Islamists have in common.

Growing up, I had assumed that most commies held the John Lennon "Brotherhood of Man" version. When I went to college, I made the mistake of attending a performance of "The Lower Depths". It was miserable. At the end, the line about being more satisfied when the rich guys were suffering like they were was explicitly stated, and was the key point of the play, and not subtly so. They didn't even want the rich guy's stuff, they just wanted to bring him down. The angst was painful and depressing. The next play I saw was "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" After that I gave up going to plays at college.
6 posted on 04/19/2016 7:17:44 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Salvation

Envy is the reason we turn definitions of good things as evil and evil things as good.

Thank you, Monsignor Pope, for your insightful words.


7 posted on 04/19/2016 7:18:59 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Salvation

I’ve always learned from your posts of Monsignor Pope but this one is an exception.

I’ve always thought of jealousy as the negative attribute and envy as a more healthy one. Because envy may connote admiration and inspiration, or wanting similar but not a negative wanting.

For example, a woman has trouble conceiving. She becomes envious but happy for her sister who has baby after baby.

Another example, two athletes compete and one wins the prize. The other one is envious but vows to work harder to finish first next time. A jealous one might plot against the winner and attempt to cause a calamity.

Saul was envious? I always thought he was jealous.

I’ll ponder on Monsignor’s message and meaning further.


8 posted on 04/19/2016 7:51:48 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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How Envy is Different from Jealously and Is a Diabolical Sin

Don't care about the religious or philosophical nuances, but it's really irritating to see that most native (American) English speakers don't seem to know the difference...

10 posted on 04/19/2016 8:09:11 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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Jealousy vs Envy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA


14 posted on 04/19/2016 8:38:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay (Mo)
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To: Salvation

Does this fellow realize that this article is rather counter to what we’ve been hearing from the Vatican?


16 posted on 04/19/2016 9:57:08 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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Envy, the driver of leftism, is a side effect of vanity. Humility is the cure. The self esteem movement is leftist evil.


17 posted on 04/19/2016 10:21:34 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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bump


18 posted on 04/19/2016 10:25:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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