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To: ealgeone
"Then he's conflated on his message. One place he says this, the other place something else." Nope. The problem is YOUR UNDERSTANDING. "The whole business of the Mass being an unbloody or bloody sacrifice is the problem." Nope. There's no problem at all - except your understanding. Again. "There is no need of any sacrifice. Period." There is need for the one sacrifice to be presented again - the need for best worship of the Father if nothing else. "It's already been done." Yes - and it is presented again. One sacrifice presented again. "As He said on the Cross: Τετέλεσται" And yet Luke 24:30-31.
46 posted on 04/16/2016 5:09:25 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
No, my understanding of the Mass is clear.

The catholic can name and rename whatever they want, but it doesn't change what it is.

Whether it be veneration, dulia, a sacrifice presented again, worship, statues of mary are not considered idols, kneeling before said statue is not worship, relying upon mary for salvation is not really relying upon her for salvation, etc.

Catholicism has to redefine the normal understanding of everyday words and sentences.

It's one of the most convaluted systems I've encountered.

47 posted on 04/16/2016 5:17:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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