Then Jesus lied while on the cross and said that it was finished.,P> If He's still being sacrificed, He never died and therefore forgiveness of sins is not given.
How can you all be participating in killing Jesus, which is hardly something I would glory in or be proud of, when He's alive, risen from the dead and seated at the right hand of the Father?
FWIW, the sacrifice of the mass MUST result in the shedding of blood of the sacrifice and the DEATH of the sacrifice. That means that Jesus must die again in every mass offered, because without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins.
The nonsense about it being a bloodless sacrifice means that it's just another useless killing.
Because without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins.
Excellent point regarding the blood.
Your comments stretch beyond reason and credulity!
“Then Jesus lied while on the cross and said that it was finished.,P> If He’s still being sacrificed, He never died and therefore forgiveness of sins is not given.”
What are you trying to say? As I said before, Jesus is not dying over and over again. It is our offering to God that he completes and changes the offering of the Bread and Wine into His Body and Blood through the actions of the priest.
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Your comment: “the sacrifice of the mass MUST result in the shedding of blood of the sacrifice and the DEATH of the sacrifice.”
Why? your comment is not logical.
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Your comment: “Because without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins.”
Do you understand this Bible passage (and it was repeated)?
Or do you not accept that Christ gave the Apostles and their successors the power to forgive sins (or not to forgive sins)?
21* [Jesus] said to them again,l “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” 22* And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them,m “Receive the holy Spirit. 23* n Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” John 20:21-23
Perhaps if you read the footnote you would better understand Hebres10:18
[10:11–18] Whereas the levitical priesthood offered daily sacrifices that were ineffectual in remitting sin (Heb 10:11), Jesus offered a single sacrifice that won him a permanent place at God’s right hand. There he has only to await the final outcome of his work (Heb 10:12–13; cf. Ps 110:1). Thus he has brought into being in his own person the new covenant prophesied by Jeremiah (Jer 31:33–34) that has rendered meaningless all other offerings for sin (Heb 10:14–18).
So the sacrifice of the Mass is the new covenant or new testament as stated in Luke 22:19-20 and Corinthians 1:23-27. Corinthians 3:16-17. indicates that the Church is a Temple of God where there are priestly ministery and sacrifice.
Jesus told the Apostles “Do this (the Eucharist)in memory of me” He did not tell them to write this. The Last Supper was the first sacrifice of the Mass (the new Passover) and completed with the death of Jesus on Friday.
Did you know that St Jerome translates the Our Father prayer in the Vulgate “our daily bread” as “super substantial bread” (or the Eucharist).
So the Mass and the Eucharist have been with us since the Last Supper.