I see that many still do not understand that Jesus and the Eucharist are the same and they do not have faith in the words of Jesus.
So you do not believe or accept the words of Jesus? 57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.b 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
Instead they have faith in their interpretation or opinion that may not be real faith in Jesus. Just because one states that they have faith in Jesus but reject his teachings might conclude for the Lord to question if it is true faith.
Yes Nicodemus was told truly, truly that Baptism of water and the Holy Spirit was necessary to see the kingdom of God.
Just as Christ was baptized and stated that it was essential for life with God.
Yes the Apostles believed in the Eucharist and accepted the ability to change Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of our Lord during Mass. So you make statements that Catholics skip verses of Chapter 6. Be specific as that doesn’t make sense. I could say that Protestants ignore many teachings that they disagree with (such as the Real Presence) because Catholic teachings follow what Jesus taught us.
I am not trying to win an argument, but to share the Truth of Jesus that is important for faith in Jesus.
God’s Peace be with you.
Then Jesus is manna ?
And we see catholics still do not understand the Mass is against the New Testament.
You've said the eucharist is a true sacrifice.
The Eucharist is a true sacrifice, not just a commemorative meal, as “Bible Christians” insist.
However, that is exactly what the Lord's Supper is. Do this in remembrance of Me. The Greek word for remembrance means a recalling, remembrance, memory.
If one studies the Word, one knows that blood was never consumed in any of the sacrifices.
One also knows the Jerusalem Council, where Peter was along with all of the disciples, sent the following note “For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: 29that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.” Acts 15:28-29
At the end of the Bread of Life discourse, the disciples told Jesus, "Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. 69“We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.” John 6:68-69 NASB
We know catholicism teaches it is an ongoing sacrifice of Christ over and over again in direct contradiction of the Word. The Bible teaches Jesus was a one time sacrifice for our sins. He is seated in Heaven. The next time He leaves it will be the Second Coming.
The whole catholic position on this is utter blasphemy and shows a lack of understanding of the New Testament on this issue.
11Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; 12but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, Hebrews 10:11
However, roman catholicism totally ignores this and teaches just the opposite.
“No act is greater,” says St. Thomas,” than the consecration of the body of Christ.”23 In this essential phase of the sacred ministry, the power of the priest is not surpassed by that of the bishop, the archbishop, the cardinal or the pope. Indeed it is equal to that of Jesus Christ. For in this role the priest speaks with the voice and the authority of God Himself.
When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne,
and places Him upon our alter to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man.
It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperor: it is greater than that of saints and angels, greater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim.
Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. While the Blessed Virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time,
the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of man – not once but a thousand times!
The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows his head in humble obedience to the priest’s command.
The Faith of Millions: The Credentials of the Catholic Religion, O’Brien, John Anthony Rev, Our Sunday Visitor, Inc, Huntington, Indiana, Nihil obstat: Rev. Lawrence Gollner, Censor Librorum, Imprimatur: Leo A Pursley, Bishop of Fort Wayne-South Bend, pages 255-256 The Faith of Millions: The Credentials of the Catholic Religion
If catholics want to continue to insist in believing Jesus is sacrificed over and over and over again, I cannot stop them from doing so.
Just understand this:
but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, Hebrews 10:11
So you do not believe or accept the words of Jesus?
Jesus and the tokens of His Passion are not one and the same. To say that any object is invested with His personality is simply incorporating (pun) pantheism into the Gospel of Jesus. Your Jesus is another Christ--of the same kind--yet still another, and not the Christ of the Holy Bible.
Here is the sense, in English, reading between the lines of what Apostle Paul warned the Corinthian assembly in writing (2 Cor. 11:3,4)
I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. "I'm extremely apprehensive that, just as the serpent sweet-talked Eve, by some tricky artifice your minds become corrupted from the uncomplicated belief in the Messiah. For if somebody comes to you, and you allow him access to authoritatively proclaim from your pulpit another Christ of the same kind, one very similar to the Messiah, but still other, not the same as the one we (Paul and Sosthenes and Timothy) preached. Or if he proclaims another spirit of a different kind, not the one each of you received according to our teaching; or another gospel of a different kind than the gospel we proclaimed, you might be tempted to hear him out."
Quoting Albert Barnes, who quotes Paul's next verse 5:
"The most eminent of the apostles have not preached Christ, ministered the spirit, explained and enforced the doctrines of the Gospel in a more powerful and effectual manner than I have done." Therefore with such admonishment the Corinthians ought to pronounce such a gospel anatehema.
FRiend, not only is your Christ a pantheistic one, but your gospel is quite different than the one recorded in the Scriptures. It is one of strange doctrines and "miraculous" signs and wonders, of a spirit domineering your cult churches, but not present in New Testament assemblies. I reject this, and your religion can never, ever attract me away from the Christ of the Cross, The One described from generation to generation by His Word, which is always sufficient for bringing believers back to God and His Son from the religionists who cart the gullible, credulous, blinded worldlings off by the boatload.
I, a human, am not what I eat, and neither was/is The Son of Man the same as what He ate on the eve of His atonement.