Hovering over Rome: The Ghost of Martin Luther

The Catholic World Report ^ | March 16, 2016 | Allessandra Nucci

[metmom]

The leadership of my Church, the only true Church, is Jesus Christ. Not some fat, adulterous slob.

Really......

Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/

1. Liberius, reigned 352-66 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
2. Honorius I, reigned 625-638 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
3. Stephen VI, reigned 896-89 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
4. John XII, reigned 955-964 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
5. Benedict IX, reigned 1032-1048 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
6. Boniface VIII, reigned 1294-1303 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
7. Urban VI, reigned 1378-1389 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
8. Alexander VI, reigned 1492-1503 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
9. Leo X, reigned 1513-1521 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
10. Clement VII, reigned 1523-1524 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]

Top 10 Worst Popes in History

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php

1. Pope Alexander VI (1431 – 1503)
2. Pope John XII (c. 937 – 964)
3. Pope Benedict IX (c. 1012 – 1065/85)
4. Pope Sergius III (? – 911)
5. Pope Stephen VI (? – 897)
6. Pope Julius III (1487 – 1555)
7. Pope Urban II (ca. 1035 – 1099)
8. Pope Clement VI (1291 – 1352)
9. Pope Leo X (1475 – 1521)
10. Pope Boniface VIII (c. 1235 – 1303)

[metmom]

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe you follow Christ. Otherwise, you would not reject His Church, the one and only Church, that He founded.

Prove that Catholicism IS the church that Jesus allegedly founded.

And besides, what is Catholicism going to do for me that Jesus couldn't or wouldn't?

[ebb tide]

I've put it on the internet that I believe Jesus died for me.

That's all it takes? Putting something on the internet? Isn't that a "work"?

[Gamecock]

Best way to distract folks of Frankie is to drag Luther out.

You would think they would have better things to concern their selves with.

[kinsman redeemer]

You have it wrong. Others have already told you.

[ealgeone]

Dude/dudette....read the whole thing. I'm willing to tell the world I am a follower of Christ.

What say you....are you a follower of Christ?

It's a simple yes or no.

[MHGinTN]

Wow, Luther lives in your hjead 24/7. Such bitterness inside. Try reading that passage from 1 Thess 1 I posted for you. I presume on the Promise of God --not Luther-- that I am already delivered fromt he wrath to come on the greta and terrible Day of The Lord. That's the Day that comes upon the world like a thief in the night, upon those who are of the night, drunken in the night. Christians will not be here on Earth for that day. We are of the light and will be coming back to Earth following the Tribulation which will see God's wrath poured out in ever increasing severity upon the prideful world who believe they can make themselves worthy of that which God says comes by Grace Allein, er, I mean by Grace alone.

You continue to conflate the Ekklesia of Jesus with your man-made insyitution and see how that works out for ya. But some advice, don't approach His Throne with that haughty attitude.

[ealgeone]

Isn’t it amazing that catholics have been asked on this thread to say if they follow Jesus or not.....and no takers.

[ebb tide]

Prove that Catholicism IS the church that Jesus allegedly founded.

Easy: Peter and his successors. It's in the Bible, even Luther's version.

[metmom]

Didn’t the Catholic church forgive or exonerate Luther at one point in the past years?

I don’t think the message trickled down through the ranks.

He still evokes rabid, frothing at the mouth responses from Catholics for not being perfect while all manner of immorality and unChristlike behavior is summarily dismissed in their popes.

[ebb tide]

I follow Christ. That’s why I’m in the one Church He founded.

[ebb tide]

Didn’t the Catholic church forgive or exonerate Luther at one point in the past years?

No, it did not.

[metmom]

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

[ealgeone]

I'm glad to hear you are a Christian.

As a Christian we are all in His ekklesia...the body of believers.

[metmom]

Easy: Peter and his successors. It's in the Bible, even Luther's version.

And the word *pope* is in the Bible just where?

And where is the list of Peter's successors found in Scripture?

Oh, and while you're at it, where are the instructions Peter left for managing the church and choosing his successors that he left us? Chapter and verse, please.

[MHGinTN]

So, with God’s Spirit in you, why are you still attending that other religion and that pagan Mass?

[af_vet_1981]

I cannot speak for him. I can only speak for myself.

The question still remains to answered....are you a follower of Christ?

You had written "You cannot be anti-semittic and be a follower of Jesus"

You cannot even speak so your testimony is useless. It seems to me it is just words; no meat one the bones, so to speak.

[metmom]

I follow Christ. That’s why I’m in the one Church He founded.

And some of us follow Christ and to not choose to affiliate with Catholicism, which nobody has yet proved is the church that Jesus said He would build.

The whole *one true church* thing is still just say so on the part of Catholicism, just like any organization that wishes to validate it6self by appealing to authority.

Nobody needs a church to be saved. All they need is Jesus, directly with Him and through Him, with no other intermediaries or mediators.

[ebb tide]

And some of us follow Christ and to not choose to affiliate with Catholicism,...

Sorry, but you cannot do one without the other.

Nobody needs a church to be saved.

Wow, good luck with that heresy.

[ebb tide]

The whole *one true church* thing is still just say so on the part of Catholicism, just like any organization that wishes to validate it6self by appealing to authority.

What more authority is needed than that of the Son of God?