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To: omegatoo

But this is extra-ordinary claim, requiring extra-ordinary proof. The text does not support this claim; in fact, the plain reading seems to present the opposite claim, and only by using the less frequently used meaning of “until” is this extra-ordinary claim even possible.

Also, how is her perpetual virginity relevant to a believer’s salvation?


83 posted on 03/12/2016 11:57:47 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

But still it is possibile.

Until does sometimes mean until and after, and brother sometimes means relative.

Not relevant to your salvation, but relevant to mine.

Love,
O2


90 posted on 03/12/2016 12:08:49 PM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: kosciusko51
Well stated! I'm wondering why the Angel told Joseph to not be afraid to take Mary as his wife ... they were betrothed and the final marriage ceremony had not yet been performed but the Angel told Joseph it would be okay to go ahead and have that final ceremony, sometime, probably early in Mary's pregnancy.

BTW, all the Mariology Magic is not related to a believers salvation, EXCEPT in the works based striving for salvation religion of catholiciism which requires devotion to Mary in goddess status for the blessings of Catholic faith. She can keep a catholic out of purgatory! She can shorten a Catholic's time in purgatory! She can make her son answer your requests for blessings! sHE IS THE GODDESS PORTION OF THE RELIGION WHICH SOUGHT to pull the pagans into the power circle of catholiciism. That's a yuge insult to The Mother of Jesus.

91 posted on 03/12/2016 12:09:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: kosciusko51
Also, how is her perpetual virginity relevant to a believer’s salvation?

Well...



 1 ELSIE 17:1-10
 
1 Now the Catholics gathered their armies together to battle, and were gathered at FreeRepublic, which belongs to Jim; they encamped EVERYWHERE, in Rome and all her outposts.  2 And them Prots and the men of Wittenberg were gathered together, and they encamped in the pages of FR, and drew up in battle array against the Catholics.  3 The Catholics stood on Rome's teachings on one side, and Prots stood on Biblical truth on the other side, with a great rift between them.
 
4 And a champion(?) went out from the camp of the Catholics, named (Insert your favorite here) , from The Land of Whining, whose height was probably similar to Lord Farquaad.  5 He had a Brown Scapula around his neck, and he was armed with all sorts of Sacrements, and the weight of the Sacrements was quite burdensome.  6 And he had bronze armor on his legs (to protect from Prot ankle biters) and a loop of beads between his fingers.  7 Now the beads were to remind him of many teachings, and his iron spearhead; though a bit rusty; was to prod the Prots with - if one of them ever DARED to get near - and Mother of Mercy went before him. 
 
8 Then he stood and cried out to the armies of Luther, and said to them, “Why have you come out to line up for battle? Am I not a Catholic, and you the servants of just words on paper? Choose a man (or a woman named cow) for yourselves, and let him (spit!) come down to me.  9 If he is able to fight with me and kill me, then we will be your servants. But if I prevail against him and kill him, then you shall be our servants and serve us.”  10 And the Catholic said, “I defy the armies of LUTHER this day; give me a man, that we may fight together.”

172 posted on 03/12/2016 5:38:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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