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OSV.com ^ | 03-09-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 03/12/2016 9:36:07 AM PST by Salvation

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To: terycarl; Elsie; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ...
Lent is the Christian time of preparation prior to Easter...How could it possibly be mentioned in the Bible??

Christians were not preparing for the Resurrection 40 days before it happened.

And yet Catholics expect us to believe that Jesus and His disciples participated in the eucharist, the sacrifice of Christ on the cross before Jesus even went to the cross. That they participated in a sacrifice that had not yet happened.

Go figure. The disconnect is astounding.

761 posted on 03/17/2016 1:17:40 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
'Prepare' for WHAT?

Jesus death? or His resurrection?



Why would a Catholic need to 'prepare', when they drink blood and eat godly meat every time they enter one of their chosen churches?

762 posted on 03/17/2016 4:06:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
well....yeah, but he is still just a man.

Then why the big fuss over him?

After all; the 10 have gone on to their reward; why not quit complaining about your pope?

After all; it's been said, many times on FR by Catholics, that the pope can change NOTHING about theology or morals; why have him?



1 Samuel 8:4-9

4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”

6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

763 posted on 03/17/2016 4:13:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Wasn't that the Wesley brothers group??

Yup.

http://catholicsensibility.blogspot.com/2006/09/singing-charles-wesleys-hymns-one-but.html

764 posted on 03/17/2016 4:26:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
The Holy Spirit might be miffed for being left off this list; while Mary gets 2...


(Remember folks; Catholics do NOT worship MAry!!



 5 English Hymns Every Catholic Should Know  

http://www.stpeterslist.com/7456/5-english-hymns-every-catholic-should-know/
 
 
 
1. Jesus, My Lord, My God, My All
Sweet Sacrament, we Thee adore.
O make us love Thee more and more!
 
2. Hail, Holy Queen, Enthroned Above
Triumph, all ye cherubim,
sing with us, ye seraphim,
heaven and earth resound the hymn:
Salve, salve, salve Regina!
 
3. Holy God, We Praise Thy Name
Infinite Thy vast domain,
Everlasting is Thy reign!
 
4. Immaculate Mary
Immaculate Mary, Thy praises we sing,
Thou reignest in splendour with Jesus our King!
 
5. To Jesus Christ, Our Sov’reign King
Christ Jesus Victor, Christ Jesus Ruler!
Christ Jesus, Lord and Redeemer!

765 posted on 03/17/2016 4:30:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

I am a member of a WESLEYAN church.

Things are a bit different there.


766 posted on 03/17/2016 4:33:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

For some reason the words in Psalm 22:7-8 are on my mind this morning.


767 posted on 03/17/2016 4:34:05 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
There is much more to the celebrations, but I did not want to bore you.

How many times will the phrase, Hail Mary, Mother of GOD be uttered in all of these celebrations?

768 posted on 03/17/2016 4:35:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Details...

De debble is in dem!


769 posted on 03/17/2016 4:36:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Just wait until the Fifth Marian dogma is passed. If so, Mary will officially replace the role of the Holy Spirit.

This has happened to some extent in catholicsm already through the "titles" conferred upon her by catholicism.

Co-redemtrix, mediatrix, mediatrix of all graces, mother of the church. And there's a whole lot more besides these.

It is noted catholics reject the clear teaching of the Word that Jesus had siblings. Some have rejected this because the Word doesn't say that on such and such date Joseph and Mary had sexual relations and nine months later a child was born.

It should be noted that there is ZERO support in Scripture for any of the titles that have been conferred upon her, yet catholics will go to the mat in defending these. The various popes have all signed off on these titles.

All these titles do is take away the focus from Christ and the Holy Spirit and replace it with the focus being on Mary.

770 posted on 03/17/2016 4:38:06 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: rwa265
For some reason the words in Psalm 22:7-8 are on my mind this morning.

OH?

Which PROT bible were you using?

771 posted on 03/17/2016 4:41:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
By now, the readers of this tract should have made the connection that paganism has infiltrated the contemporary "Christian" churches, and further study indicates that this paganism came in by way of the Roman Catholic System.

The truth is that Easter has nothing whatsoever to do with the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We also know that Easter can be as much as three weeks away from the Passover, because the pagan holiday is always set as the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox.

The true Passover and pagan Easter sometimes coincide, but in some years, they are a great distance apart.

Actually, if the things Catholics will be doing next week have their true origins in the Mystery cults then such activities are powerfully relevant. A religion fashioned to look like Christianity but having roots int he pagan feastivals, rites, and observed holidays can have such a hold on the human psyche that opening the eyes to actual Truth becomes, well, near impossible. For the carnally minded will not perceive spiritual things unless God opens their minds to His Truth.

One last thought for you: satan has been trying, ever since the Garden, to anticipate and derail the redemption of humankind. In every generation since the crucifixion, satan has had someone ready to step forward as anti-Christ, just in case the Rapture happens in that generation. Following the Rapture of the spiritual ekklesia, satan has plans for the remaining humans, so not knowing the day or hour, he has to keep a dead soul ready. Folks who are living a lie, celebrating all the vagaries of an institutional religion originating in paganism but being assured that they are of the one true church will be the easiest to have swallow the great lie, the strong delusion which will follow the Rapture of Christ's Church, His Body, His Bride. Don't miss the Rapture departure.

772 posted on 03/17/2016 7:08:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Elsie

KJV


773 posted on 03/17/2016 7:26:54 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Elsie

How many times will the phrase, Hail Mary, Mother of GOD be uttered in all of these celebrations?


Do you intentionally mix the terms in the prayer, or do you really not know that it is Holy Mary, mother of God?

The prayer is:

Hail Mary, full of grace
the Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou among women
Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus
Holy Mary, mother of God
Pray for us sinners
Now and at the hour of our death
Amen

The Hail Mary is never said during Mass. Unless I missed any, the only mention of the mother of Jesus in the Scripture readings is:

25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.mention Mary phrase will not be uttered at all. John 19:25-27 KJV

The readings mention the other Marys more often than they mention His mother.

But to answer your question, I know of at least one mention of Holy Mary, mother of God; in the Litany of Saints during the Easter Vigil.


774 posted on 03/17/2016 7:48:03 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Elsie

Does the following description from classroom.synonym.com accurately describe the differences?

Wesleyan Church vs. Methodist Church

Methodism traces its roots to the teaching of an 18th-century Anglican priest named John Wesley. The movement, which focused on a methodical study of the Bible, personal holiness and social consciousness, spread within the Church of England before becoming a separate denomination shortly before Wesley’s death in 1791. The Wesleyan Church is one of several branches of Methodism that parted ways with mainline Methodists in the mid-19th century, due to disagreements regarding the nature of sanctification — the process by which people become more holy and Christ-like.

Disagreements about Holiness

In the mid-1800s, some Methodists came to believe that the church had become lax in its teachings about holiness. The new “Methodist-Holiness” movement taught that people could become completely perfected in love and holiness through a crisis experience known as “entire sanctification.” These “holiness” groups first worked within Methodist churches, but later splintered off to form their own denominations. The Wesleyan Church was the first such denomination to formally declare belief in entire sanctification. The Wesleyan’s Church’s website defines sanctification as “God’s work of making believers pure in heart, holy in character, and empowered with the Spirit of Jesus for witness and service.”

Approach to the Bible

Bible study has always played an important role in all forms of Methodism. Most mainline Methodists — including the two largest Methodist denominations, the United Methodist Church and the Methodist Church of Great Britain — believe that the Bible must be interpreted in light of tradition, human experience and reason. Wesleyans hold the Bible to be inerrant — completely without error — and to contain everything people need in order to be saved.

Theological Diversity

Both Wesleyan and Methodist churches consider themselves diverse. Wesleyan churches generally hold to an evangelical interpretation of biblical teachings. This leads them to be conservative on a number of theological and social issues. Mainline Methodists tend to be more diverse in their theology, spanning the full spectrum from liberal to conservative thought. In describing this range of thought, the United Methodist’s statement of belief includes an oft-quoted maxim of John Wesley’s: “As to all opinions which do not strike at the root of Christianity, we think and let think.”

Ecumenical Movement

The ecumenical movement seeks to re-unify Christianity by improving relations between various denominations. The World Council of Churches is the largest expression of the ecumenical movement. Mainline Methodist denominations embrace the ecumenical movement and are affiliated with the World Council of Churches. The Methodist Church of Great Britain has signed agreements with the Anglican Communion to work towards this unity. The United Methodist Church’s Ecumenical Commitments states that they have “entered into serious interfaith encounters and explorations between Christians and adherents of other living faiths of the world.” The Wesleyan Church maintains ties with other Methodist churches through the World Methodist Council and with other evangelical denominations through the National Association of Evangelicals. Unlike mainline Methodist denominations, the Wesleyan Church is not a member of the World Council of Churches.

http://classroom.synonym.com/wesleyan-church-vs-methodist-church-7572.html


775 posted on 03/17/2016 7:55:47 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

Maybe you should get Gal 3:1-6 on your mind instead.

May the whole chapter for that matter.


776 posted on 03/17/2016 8:18:14 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

The Holy Spirit must have smiled upon me. I inadvertently transposed the numbers and read Galatians 1:3, and I wish this blessing upon you:

grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,


777 posted on 03/17/2016 8:26:30 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: MHGinTN

As I wrote, your writings are not very relevant to what we will be doing next week. For most Christians, Easter is the Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.


778 posted on 03/17/2016 8:38:53 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: terycarl
Christians were not preparing for the Resurrection 40 days before it happened.

“…Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:” - Luke 24:46

That is probably in the Catholic Bible but if it is it may be worded differently.

Old Testament prophets were preparing for the resurrection of Jesus for thousands of years.

I don't think they were “lent” the term “lent”

779 posted on 03/17/2016 9:56:32 AM PDT by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways)
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To: rwa265
You asserted, and not unduly, For most Christians, Easter is the Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. If it is the celebration of His resurrection, why is this day not celebrated in connection with Passover? why is it aligned to the once each year celebration of Semiramis/Ishtar for Nimrod's resurrected from Ishtar's womb as Tammuz in her mystery religion? Every Sunday should be the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus.

Paul wrote to the Galatians, Gal 4:10 You are observing days, months, seasons, and years. 11 I am afraid for you! I don’t want my work for you to have been wasted!

The Galatians had lapsed back into celebrating the feasts and days of Baal, which was derived from the cult of Nimrod through the religion established by his mother and widow, Semiramis!

780 posted on 03/17/2016 10:11:18 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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