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Pope Francis Contradicts Church Teaching. Again.
One Peter Five ^ | March 4, 2016 | Steve Skojec

Posted on 03/04/2016 5:54:06 PM PST by ebb tide

Pope Francis, in his recent address to the priests who will act as “Missionaries of Mercy,” once again placed himself at odds with established (and infallible) Catholic teaching, when he undermined the very matter and form of the sacrament of confession (all emphasis in the following quotes is mine):


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: communist; confession; fakepope; francis; francischurch; notmypope; redpope
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To: Tired of Taxes

That makes a valid confession actually. As long as the priest is able to understand the specific sin it counts.

I don’t think what the Pope said there is heretical.


21 posted on 03/04/2016 10:21:26 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Two Kids' Dad

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22 posted on 03/05/2016 4:40:56 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: utahagen

Arius was not pope.


23 posted on 03/05/2016 5:02:35 AM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: ebb tide

I wouldn’t doubt for a second that this guy said something else contrary to the Catholic Faith, but is it possible he is referring to someone who actually can not physically speak? If so, the Church must have some way of providing confession for them.


24 posted on 03/05/2016 5:06:38 AM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv
I do not think the pope was referring only to mute people.

If someone comes to you it is because he doesn’t want to fall into these situations, but he doesn’t dare say it, he is afraid to say it and then not be able to do it. But if he cannot do it, ad impossibila nemo tenetur. And the Lord understands these things, the language of gestures. Have open arms, to understand what is inside that heart that cannot be said or said this way … somewhat because of shame … you understand me.

25 posted on 03/05/2016 8:11:57 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Indeed. I believe that as Catholics we move beyond the abstraction of “our sinfulness” and declare in concrete terms our sins. We need to own up and confess. The shame should be welcome by any true penitent as part of the reconciliation process.


26 posted on 03/05/2016 8:56:21 AM PST by TradicalRC (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

No, the Arian Catholic Church is not part of the Roman Catholic Church. Arius himself was excommunicated by the Council of Nicea (from which orthodox Christians got the Nicean Creed), and only a sympathetic emperor brought him back out of exile. He died before he could take Communion again though- and he’s still regarded as a heretic today, especially after the Nicean Creed was reaffirmed in the 380s.


27 posted on 03/05/2016 9:24:23 AM PST by The Grammarian
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To: ebb tide

Good catch. I should know better than to give this imposter the benefit of the doubt. Thank you for setting me straight.


28 posted on 03/05/2016 9:55:26 AM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Bayard
That makes a valid confession actually. As long as the priest is able to understand the specific sin it counts

The last Sunday of my tour in Thailand, back in 1963, I wanted to get to Confession before making the flight across the Pacific. I entered the Confessional and asked, "Do you speak English?" I don't know what the priest said, but it definitely wasn't in English. I spoke a little Thai, and I think I'd have recognized a reply in Thai. It sounded more like Chinese to me. Anyway, I realized I wasn't going to have a chance to make a confession, so I just left the Confessional.

29 posted on 03/05/2016 2:00:16 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: TradicalRC
We need to own up and confess.

That's right. Enumerating one's sins, including the circumstances, is a necessary humiliation. It forces the penitent to be honest with himself.

30 posted on 03/05/2016 2:40:08 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: JoeFromSidney

That’s correct what you did was prudent to the sacrament. But your case was not what in the context of what Pope Francis was saying either, so it seems that the author has overblown the case here.


31 posted on 03/05/2016 3:09:51 PM PST by Bayard
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To: ebb tide

Stultus papa


32 posted on 03/05/2016 3:51:21 PM PST by onedoug
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