Posted on 02/23/2016 8:17:35 AM PST by Salvation
You are the boss, but I still have no clue which were the offending comments and what "you refuse to make them" means. For the past couple if day I was very careful to explain that I do not do personal posts.
Too often, obviously or I would have been sinless since age 13 (Confirmation)....I am not and the Sacrament of reconciliation is available to me as Jesus promised it would be.
For the past couple if day -> For the past couple of days
Simply because there are many non-catholic Christians who are not in Protestant denominations, that’s why. Are you familiar with NONDENOMINATIONAL churches? I guess using your logic, even Eastern Orthodox Christians are Protestants, too?
No they don't.
See post #634 to see where “refuse to make them” comes from.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3400726/posts?page=634#634
Stop posting on this thread.
Spend some time studying the guidelines, click on my name below to see them.
Did you make a mistake with "Thus sayeth the Scriptures ..." ?
I did a long word study on this in the English (DRB, Darby, AV, Merriam-Webster), Greek (Vines, Strong's, Thayer's, including LXX), and Latin (Vulgate), for this word which does not appear anywhere in the Bibles except the Catholic ones.
The word means "worship," which in the Greek and Latin means "to bow in homage to," exactly as the Islamists do many times a day, and as David did in praying to the Lord in 2 Samuel 7:18. Despite the desire of Roman theologizers who wish to diminish the force of the term so that it can describe thae attitude taken toward images representing Mary of Nazareth, it means
as in
"For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God" (Rom. 14:11 AV).
I see no place in Scripture commanding us to "venerate" Mary, Jesus' mother; not by Him, not by his Father Fos, not by the Holy Spirit, not by any writer of the Holy Scriptures.
Do the same for yourself, and you will find no difference. You can toss the partistics as "authorities" on this. Stick with Jehovah:
"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness
of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the
earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the
iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third
and fourth generation of them that hate me, . . . " (Deu 5:8-9 AV).
The enermies of God, Christ, and the Cross are . . .?
"And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I
had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet
of the angel which shewed me these things.
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy
fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of
them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God" (Re. 22:8-9 AV).
And is not Mary among the worshipers, rather than being conjointly worship-venerated??
I am. Protestant in a Halloween costume. What distinguishes a "NONDENOMINATIONAL" from a Baptist or a Presbyterian?
Attention placemarker
Read post 666 ...
But thanks!
It seems to be you are trying to force fit a Calvinist theology on top of the scriptures. The scriptures do not flow from Calvinism. Your concept of their salvation is flawed. The Messiah called the apostles and they followed him. Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus. Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou? He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour. One of the two which heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ. And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me. Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter. Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee. Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
John, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses thirty five to fifty one,
Matthew, Catholic chapter sixteen, Protestant verses fifteen to nineteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
boldness mine
Who knows, every other second, maybe?
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Alpers and Lindenbaum’s research conclusively demonstrated that kuru [neurological disorder] spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the bodies of the deceased to return the “life force” of the deceased to the hamlet, a Fore societal subunit. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%...9#Transmission
he custom of eating bread sacramentally as the body of a god was practised by the Aztecs before the discovery and conquest of Mexico by the Spaniards."
The May ceremony is thus described by the historian Acosta: “The Mexicans in the month of May made their principal feast to their god Vitzilipuztli, and two days before this feast, the virgins whereof I have spoken (the which were shut up and secluded in the same temple and were as it were religious women) did mingle a quantity of the seed of beets with roasted maize, and then they did mould it with honey, making an idol...all the virgins came out of their convent, bringing pieces of paste compounded of beets and roasted maize, which was of the same paste whereof their idol was made and compounded, and they were of the fashion of great bones. They delivered them to the young men, who carried them up and laid them at the idol’s feet, wherewith they filled the whole place that it could receive no more. They called these morsels of paste the flesh and bones of Vitzilipuztli.
...then putting themselves in order about those morsels and pieces of paste, they used certain ceremonies with singing and dancing. By means whereof they were blessed and consecrated for the flesh and bones of this idol. This ceremony and blessing (whereby they were taken for the flesh and bones of the idol) being ended, they honoured those pieces in the same sort as their god....then putting themselves in order about those morsels and pieces of paste, they used certain ceremonies with singing and dancing. By means whereof they were blessed and consecrated for the flesh and bones of this idol. This ceremony and blessing (whereby they were taken for the flesh and bones of the idol) being ended, they honoured those pieces in the same sort as their god...
And this should be eaten at the point of day, and they should drink no water nor any other thing till after noon: they held it for an ill sign, yea, for sacrilege to do the contrary:...and then they gave them to the people in manner of a communion, beginning with the greater, and continuing unto the rest, both men, women, and little children, who received it with such tears, fear, and reverence as it was an admirable thing, saying that they did eat the flesh and bones of God, where-with they were grieved. Such as had any sick folks demanded thereof for them, and carried it with great reverence and veneration.”
...They believed that by consecrating bread their priests could turn it into the very body of their god, so that all who thereupon partook of the consecrated bread entered into a mystic communion with the deity by receiving a portion of his divine substance into themselves.
The doctrine of transubstantiation, or the magical conversion of bread into flesh, was also familiar to the Aryans of ancient India long before the spread and even the rise of Christianity. The Brahmans taught that the rice-cakes offered in sacrifice were substitutes for human beings, and that they were actually converted into the real bodies of men by the manipulation of the priest.
...At the festival of the winter solstice in December the Aztecs killed their god Huitzilopochtli in effigy first and ate him afterwards. - http://www.bartleby.com/196/121.html
There are some differences, but these have far more in common with the Cath idea of the Eucharist than anything seen in Scripture interpretive of the words of the last supper. ^
The following was originally written some years ago, but is rather verbose, and may need some corrections.
We could ask God, but He has said He remembers them ‘no more’. [See my profile page ...] Thanks be to God, to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The day after the Rapture is going to be very interesting. Glad I won’t have to winess it.
No. I was a Catholic until the Holy Spirit shined the light of the gospel to my heart. Once I saw how badly I had been taught of what God really said, I knew I’d be a hypocrite to stay. I’ve never regretted it. Catholicism told me I couldn’t know I was going to heaven when I died. Scripture told me I could.
How could the first century Christians be Catholic when it wasn’t even used as a word to describe the whole body of Christ until the early second century??? Catholicism has this troubling habit of retrofitting her various ideas and novel dogmas back into the time when it just doesn’t fit. Then of course we have God’s sacred and inspired word to teach us the truth and the indwelling Holy Spirit to lead us.
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