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To: Mrs. Don-o
Yeshua lived in the time where that was what they wore, through history books and Hebrew culture described what they wore. I doubt very seriously that Yeshua went around in a gleaming white robe with a blue sash.

My minister wears a business suit.

I am not a diciple of Yeshua but a follower and believer and I wear what our present culture wears.

I have a cell phone (our culture) and I wear a watch (our culture).

I suggest that you read a book (if you can do so without needing a NOOK or Kindle to do so) on The Life and Times Of Yeshua/Hebrew culture.

Thank you for your sarcastic and enlightening response. Have A Nice Day. R/Janey

15 posted on 02/21/2016 2:31:59 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: SkyDancer; Mrs. Don-o; Chicory
Anyone tell me where I can find out how all those fancy robes with gold and stuff on them and the hats they were were instituted and why? Yeshua and his disciples just wore a simple robe and sandals. Wouldn’t you think the Church would emulate that? I’m not being hateful or anything, just curious. Thanks in advance.

Yes ... scripture. God commanded that they be used in the Old Testament. Look at Exodus 28:2:

For your brother Aaron you will make sacred vestments to give dignity and magnificence. You will instruct all the skilled men, whom I have endowed with skill, to make Aaron's vestments for his consecration to my priesthood. These are the vestments which they must make: a pectoral, an ephod, a robe, an embroidered tunic, a turban, and a belt. They must make sacred vestments for your brother Aaron and his sons, for them to be priests in my service. They will use gold and violet material, red-purple and crimson, and finely woven linen.

The rest of the chapter gives details on each garment.

Nothing in the New Testament requires abolition of priestly vestments. Our Lord attacked the Jewish leaders for a number of sins, but he never condemned their priestly garb. It's true the early Church didn't use the Old Testament vestments, but this is because Christians didn't want to identify their leaders with the Jewish priesthood.

My minister wears a business suit.

Catholic priests simply retained their manner of liturgical dress. Priestly vestments are no more than stylized secular Roman, Greek, and other garments which have accrued symbolic, liturgical significance over the centuries.

24 posted on 02/21/2016 2:58:48 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: SkyDancer
Sky Dancer, since Christ is resurrected and in HIS glory, the priest's vestments (as well as the beautiful churches and sacred vessels) honor him as King.

And as it happens, the Gospel for this very day reports that Christ DID have "a gleaming white robe" -

"And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them."

You'll find it in Mark's Gospel.

26 posted on 02/21/2016 3:01:24 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: SkyDancer
It's reasonable to think that Jesus wore what most people wore at that time, and likewise his Apostles and disciples. But if this is supposed to be normative, I think it would have been dealt with more explicitly in the Scripture as well as reflected in the earliest Christian writings written by the Apostles' own disciples: e.g. the Didache, Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp of Smyrna, etc. But the topic never comes up.

The priests and Levites in the OT wore "holy attire" which is quite elaborate and described in Exodus 28:2ff. The Psalms tell us: "Worship the Lord in holy attire." I mention this, not to say that all our priests ought to wear ephods and turbans, but just to point out that holy attire is nowhere prohibited in Scripture, and is more than once warmly recommended.

Interestingly, Jesus did wear an unusual article of dress, a chiton (seamless garment). If it was like the chitons of his day, it was sleeveless, with blue or purple stripes going over the shoulders down each side. The width of the stripe (clavi) usually indicated the status and/or age of wearer.

Further than this I cannot go, because there has been a lot of speculation about that chiton, and I don't know which speculations are the most likely to be true!

But I did not mean to be "sarcastic". I would say I intended my response as "playful". ("Sarcastic" edges over into a connotation of "intended to be spiteful," which was not my intent at all.)

Your original question was, I think, intended to be provocative from a Scripture Alone point of view. I did want you to notice that when it comes to disapproval of clerical dress, you haven't a Scripture to stand on.

51 posted on 02/21/2016 5:13:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of Clarification)
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