Posted on 02/21/2016 1:36:35 PM PST by NYer
So, Fr Z, do you still think Francis’ heretical comments about artificial birth control is “meaningless”?
Yeshua and his disciples just wore a simple robe and sandals.
All thirteen of them crammed into the same robe and sandals...? Kind of gives new meaning to the term ‘close knit’...
So far all I’ve received in posts are pretty much sarcastic replies.
Offer a sarcastic post as you did, and you get repaid in kind...but you already know that, so...
Yes ... scripture. God commanded that they be used in the Old Testament. Look at Exodus 28:2:
For your brother Aaron you will make sacred vestments to give dignity and magnificence. You will instruct all the skilled men, whom I have endowed with skill, to make Aaron's vestments for his consecration to my priesthood. These are the vestments which they must make: a pectoral, an ephod, a robe, an embroidered tunic, a turban, and a belt. They must make sacred vestments for your brother Aaron and his sons, for them to be priests in my service. They will use gold and violet material, red-purple and crimson, and finely woven linen.
The rest of the chapter gives details on each garment.
Nothing in the New Testament requires abolition of priestly vestments. Our Lord attacked the Jewish leaders for a number of sins, but he never condemned their priestly garb. It's true the early Church didn't use the Old Testament vestments, but this is because Christians didn't want to identify their leaders with the Jewish priesthood.
My minister wears a business suit.
Catholic priests simply retained their manner of liturgical dress. Priestly vestments are no more than stylized secular Roman, Greek, and other garments which have accrued symbolic, liturgical significance over the centuries.
Yes, but that’s OT. We’re living the NT.
And as it happens, the Gospel for this very day reports that Christ DID have "a gleaming white robe" -
"And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them."
You'll find it in Mark's Gospel.
It was not a sarcastic post. It was an educational one. I simply wanted to know where to look, I did not expect posters to start slamming me on it. Thank you for your Christian love post. That was sarcasm.
Again. I thank you for the post you made in supposedly Christian love. I hope you enjoyed yourself.
The Church is staying the same. It is we who have changed.
I’m still of the mind that we live under what Yeshua has preached and what the disciples preached. There was a divorce, if I may use that word, between the new Christians and the old Hebraic religion. I’m a Messianic Jew in that I am Hebrew but believe Yeshua is Messiah.
I’ve noticed that that happens more often than not.
Were you born into a Jewish family or did you embrace this sect on your own?
So far in response to my question have been met with derision and sarcastic remarks. Fortunately private emails have shown me where to look, the why's and wherefores for the clothing current priests and the pope wears. I'm appreciative for those people's efforts in helping me with this. True, I could have used some other thread (none that showed) but the picture in the original post got my attention and thought I'd ask a simple question not knowing that there are people here who would respond in the way they did. Perhaps I was wrong in posing my question in the first place. I've learned my lesson well.
R/Janey
I’m not being hateful or anything, just curious’
Not sarcastic...? The fact that you had to preface your post with such a disclaimer is evidence that you suspected it would cause controversy...t say nothing of the fact that it had nothing to do with thread topic...
Thank you for your Christian love post. That was sarcasm.
I see...someone composing a post criticizing your commentary is devoid of Christian comity...that’s not sarcasm; it’s self pity...
I hope you enjoyed yourself.
Sigh...if you can’t engage in contentious dialog without reverting to self pity, what are you doing on an interactive commentary board...?
It’s getting slammed for no reason at all. I thought some FReeper’s were more polite. My mistake. It wasn’t supposed to be a contentious dialog. Those people brought it upon themselves. I simply asked an honest question and got dumped on. Thanks and Have A Nice Day.
See previous post. Private emails helped better than getting slammed by people like you. There was no reason for you or any of those others to post sarcastic replies. And again, I’ve learned my lesson not to ask questions on a “Christian” post.
First place to start... Exodus 25.
Worship is not meant to be a sparse exercise without fanfare... It’s an exercise to reflect the fact that we are in the presence of God.
And what did Yeshua and the disciples and apostles teach us?
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