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Why I’ll Stay Catholic Even if the Whole World Turns Against Us
Catholic Stand ^ | February 14, 2016 | Felix Whelan

Posted on 02/14/2016 3:07:53 PM PST by NYer

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To: HerrBlucher; Catmom
I have been through a lot of different world views in my life including atheism, pantheism, Theosophy, and spiritualism.

Your journey brought to mind the homily, delivered by (then) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, in his capacity as Dean of the College of Cardinals, at the mass celebrated before they were sequestered in conclave to elect the next pope. April 18, 2005.

Reflecting on Ephesians 4:14, he said:

How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true.

Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be "tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine", seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one's own ego and desires.

We, however, have a different goal: the Son of God, the true man. He is the measure of true humanism. An "adult" faith is not a faith that follows the trends of fashion and the latest novelty; a mature adult faith is deeply rooted in friendship with Christ. It is this friendship that opens us up to all that is good and gives us a criterion by which to distinguish the true from the false, and deceipt from truth.

We must develop this adult faith; we must guide the flock of Christ to this faith. And it is this faith - only faith - that creates unity and is fulfilled in love.

You can read the homily, in its entirety HERE.

Pope Benedict XVI is a brillian theologian. One can draw so much inspiration from his writings, including his homilies.

21 posted on 02/14/2016 4:45:03 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer

Ratzinger was also theologian to St. John Paul II. No shabby feat there.


22 posted on 02/14/2016 4:46:48 PM PST by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: NYer

I always thought Jason Stellman, a former Presbyterian minister, summed it up well:

“In a word, I fought the Church, and the Church won. And what it did was beat me, but it didn’t draw me, entice me, or lure me by playing upon some deep, latent psychosis or desire on my part for something Protestantism just couldn’t provide. Catholicism went from being so obviously ridiculous that it wasn’t even worth bothering to oppose, to being something whose claims were so audacious that I couldn’t help opposing them. But what it never was, was attractive, and in many ways it still isn’t.

“But what Catholicism is, I have come to discover, is true.”


23 posted on 02/14/2016 4:47:26 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: NYer

I will stand with the Catholics if the world should turn against them.


24 posted on 02/14/2016 4:50:06 PM PST by strings6459
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To: NYer

Hammer meet nail! Thank you for that NYer!


25 posted on 02/14/2016 4:50:11 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Abortion is murder)
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To: NYer

Thank you.


26 posted on 02/14/2016 4:51:29 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: NYer

I second and third all your thoughts which are far more eloquent than mine!


27 posted on 02/14/2016 5:06:14 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: NYer

Good for you. I am and will remain LDS (Mormon) although the whole world has been against us!


28 posted on 02/14/2016 5:13:35 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe; Religion Moderator

Did you miss the words Catholic Caucus in the title?


29 posted on 02/14/2016 5:33:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Biggirl

Not a doubt.

The muslims just don’t know it.
ya wanna tell them?


30 posted on 02/14/2016 5:45:38 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: NYer
Jesus began the Catholic faith...and "catholic" only means UNIVERSAL.

It was the FIRST Christian faith and it still works after 2000 years. Other Christian versions didn't emerge until ONE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED+ YEARS LATER.

Hmmmmmm.

31 posted on 02/14/2016 6:35:20 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer
Gonna be a lot of "removed" comments. Lol.

I would be WORRIED if there weren't. The anti-Catholic remarks are always amusing to me.

32 posted on 02/14/2016 6:36:43 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer
14 March 2013
There are an estimated 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in the world, according to Vatican figures. More than 40% of the world's Catholics live in Latin America - but Africa has seen the biggest growth in Catholic congregations in recent years.

Catholicism will spread, as its name indicates. "Catholic" means "universal."
We had a Nigerian priest in our parish for many years. He returned to Nigeria to head his priestly order.
I still miss him.

33 posted on 02/14/2016 7:39:45 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: LT Brass Bancroft
If somebody wants to convert me away from Catholicism, he’ll have to convince me of one of the following:
1. That there is no God.
2. That Jesus Christ is not God the Son.
3. That Jesus Christ did not establish a Church.
4. That the Pope is not the successor to St. Peter

OUTSTANDING post.

34 posted on 02/14/2016 7:41:27 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer
You can tell when you've "hit home" with the non-Catholics who DON'T like the Catholic Church. There are ALWAYS many "Comments removed by the Religion Moderator."

I don't bash Protestantism. Why would I? So WHY do they bash Catholicism? Why don't they just extol their own 1500+ A.D. branch of Christianity? Who knows.

35 posted on 02/14/2016 7:44:37 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer
http://www.theworkofgod.org/dogmas.htm

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The site lists and explains the DOGMA that we Catholics must believe.
The rest of what we do or believe is either Apostolic Tradition or tradition.

36 posted on 02/14/2016 7:49:23 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

I chose the Catholic faith. Glad I did.


37 posted on 02/14/2016 7:54:12 PM PST by karnage
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To: cloudmountain
I don't bash Protestantism. Why would I? So WHY do they bash Catholicism? Why don't they just extol their own 1500+ A.D. branch of Christianity? Who knows.

And yet, here you are, commenting on Protestantism, bashing them for "bashing" the RCC.

And breaking the caucus label yourself.

38 posted on 02/14/2016 7:54:16 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: cloudmountain; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; BlueDragon; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
Why don't they just extol their own 1500+ A.D. branch of Christianity? Who knows.

Because we don't believe that *our own brand of Christianity* is what saves people.

Not one of the non-Catholics on FR promote their chosen place of worship as the One True Church, don't claim that by it alone one can be saved, don't claim that it alone has the truth or is the truth, don't claim authority over every person who names the name of Christ worldwide.

It's CHRIST who saves, not a church or denomination.

We promote Jesus, not a religious organization.

39 posted on 02/14/2016 8:01:48 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
And yet, here you are, commenting on Protestantism, bashing them for "bashing" the RCC.
And breaking the caucus label yourself.

Lol. Well, I got a rise out of you. But, that is understandable since you left the Catholic Church in a tizzy-fit. I am really still sorry for that. I had THOUGHT that I liked you. But, since you don't SEEM to care for my thoughts, I didn't EVER think I would get a rise out of you ever again.

My godmother married my uncle, who had divorced his first wife. It bothered her for AGES. My uncle's first wife finally passed away and my aunt/godmother married my uncle (father's younger brother) in the Church. She was SO happy and finally at peace with her faith.

I loved her very much and still miss her. Our good Lord was kind enough to allow me to visit her in the hospital JUST before she died. I said that I LOVED her very much. She gave me her HUGE smile and passed away shortly after that.

Anyway, I wish YOU all the best; always did; always will. I also am sure that you are happy with your life now. It's a good thing that you are still on the site, posting things to think about. That's good too...as long as we both stay close to Jesus. HE is our salvation...no one else.

As always: God bless you and yours.

40 posted on 02/14/2016 8:04:09 PM PST by cloudmountain
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