Posted on 02/11/2016 2:10:24 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?(Matthew 16:1-3)
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.(Luke 19:41-44)
When armies surrounded Jerusalem in the last days of Judah, during the days of Jeremiah, the people had a slogan, âThe Temple of the LORD, The Temple of the LORDâ. This slogan was repeated to keep alive the vain hope that there would be no judgment on Judah, because in spite of her sins, she still had in her center the Temple of the LORD. As long as the temple was still functioning, Judah though she was inviolable.
But Jeremiah gave a sermon which addressed this delusionâ¦
Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, are theseâ¦Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord. But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.(Jeremiah 7:4,9-12)
Because of faulty theology, the people were unprepared for the horrors which were coming upon them. They couldnât see how Babylonians could conquer, loot and sack the temple of the House of God.Jeremiah said,âgo to Shilohâ, where then tabernacle had been and near to Aphek where the Ark of the Covenant had been captured in Battle.The Temple of the LORD is only inviolable as long as God dwells in it.
In a similar way, many were caught unawares of the import of the times when John the Baptist and Jesus came preaching repentance. Little did they realize they were in a kind of âLast daysâ scenario themselves, for within forty years of the crucifixion, all of Judea would be destroyed, 1.5 Jews slain and virtually all of the rest of them hauled off to the ends of the earth into slavery, and the temple was destroyed again. There would be no Israel for centuries, until may,1948.
John and Jesus warned them that their theology was wrong, and blinding them to reality. They believed in Jewish DNA in the same way as their ancestors believed in the temple. As sons of Abraham they would be saved. There was no need for repentance, and one day Israel would prevail over all of her enemies.These people missed the significance of their times and suffered for it.
A good many Christian people in this age are in the same boat. We are living in the last days, but false theology blinds them to it.
There is no way one can understand the Divine Eschatological program, without factoring in the nation of Israel. The prophecies revolve around Israel,the Messiah of Israel, the nationâs hatred of Israel, and the final conflict and deliverance of Israel.
There is a pervasive doctrine called âReplacement Theologyâ which has gained the upper hand among evangelicals. Replacement Theology holds that God is through with Israel,and the only dealings he has with Jews are with those who are born again into the church of Jesus Christ. Supposedly, The Church has taken the place of Israel, and the promises to Israel are spiritualized and applied to the church.
Reformed Christians for the most part, and Calvinists, Catholics, and Greek Orthodox have long held this view. In other words, most of confessing Christianity holds this view, that there is no Divine program for the Jews as a people, and that all of the promises of God once uniquely given to Israel, now belong to the church, usually in a spiritualized form.
This erroneous teaching has blinded millions of Christians to one of the greatest, and most obvious miracles in the modern world, the resurrection of a national Israel.This miracle is a billboard sized signpost and warning to the entire world, that the Word of the LORD is true, the end times have commenced and the time for Judgment is soon.
Imagine having to tell yourself there is no significance to this miracle which has occurred so openly before the eyes of all.
The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book. For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.(Jeremiah 30:1-3)
In so many places in prophecy there is an order to end times eventsâ¦Israel comes back to the Land in unbeliefâ¦then comes the time of tribulationâ¦(Jacobâs Trouble),
And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah. For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacobâs trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.(Jeremiah 30:4-7)
This is followed by promises of national restoration and blessing..
For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.(Jeremiah 30:8-9)
Finally the nations which hated and attacked Israel are judged, Israel has been chastened but is to be savedâ¦
Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid. For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.(Jeremiah 30:10-11)
We see the same in Joel 3, first the regathering at a specific time,
For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,(Joel 3:1)
Then comes the indictment of all of the nationsâ¦
I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.(Joel 3:2-3)
Next comes a time of terrible war, with God himself making war on the nationsâ¦
Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong. Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O Lord. Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.(Joel 3:9-13)
Finally Israel restored to God, and is vindicated and savedâ¦
The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I am the Lord your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the Lord, and shall water the valley of Shittim. Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land. But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.(Joel 3:16-20)
For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the Lord dwelleth in Zion.(Joel 3:21)
The last verse of Joel demands a better explanation than the KJV translation affords, for it literally says,âThen I will treat their blood(Israelâs) as innocent, whereas I have not treated as innocent, for the LORD dwells in Zionâ
So all physical Jews who have ever been born will be saved?
Romans says “ so ALL Israel will be saved”
Does ALL mean ALL?
Funny, I remember someone telling the Jews in his day in John 8, that unless they believed he was the one sent from God, they would die in their sin.
I guess He didn’t understand ALL Israel was going to be saved, whether they believe or reject Jesus.
Exactly!
Israel and the Church have completely different destinies.
The Church, is also not to be confused for the Tribulation Saints who lose their lives via martyrdom at the hands of the A/C. They are mentioned in Revelation 7:9-17 and they also have a different destiny than the Church & Israel.
Replacement Theology is from the pit of hell!
Paul never called the Gentile church Israel, only that they are grafted into Israel
obviously not. But at some point ,God will save all of the remaining Jews in one day...see Zechariah 12
There is no Gentile Church any more than there is a Jewish Church.
There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ, the barrier is broken down, all are one new man in Christ.
So “ all Israel” now means remaining Jews?
That is you opinion, the NT doesn’t teach that anywhere.
Amen Bro! So few see this--from Bosrah, through Edom/Petra.
"The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea" (Isa. 34:6 AV)
I have already said that the Gentiles and Jews are one man n Christ. But there is a difference between Israel and the church...Who was Paul, the apostle to the gentiles speaking to in this passage? He was speaking to Gentiles in the church...
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
You need to learn the message of Romans 9-11
Yeah, right.......sigh.
Verse 14 shows Paul was not speaking of physical Jews when later he says “ so all Israel will be saved”
” and might save some of them” - clearly speaking about unbelieving Jews.
The Israel that will be saved is the Church, comprised of Jews and Gentile believers in Christ.
I already quoted Paul in Ephesians 2 saying believing Gentiles are fellow citizens with believing Jews in the commonwealth of Israel.
Unbelieving Jews and unbelieving Gentiles are not part of the commonwealth of Israel, in fact, they are part of Satan’s kingdom and enemies of God.
Tell me, this “miracle” you speak of in the country of Israel. Are they witnesses of God or enemies of God?
“That and the apostasy in the Catholic Church foretold by Matthew 24:10-28.”
Read and realize that you are lacking in the knowledge and wisdom from God.
Revelation 2:18-29
Not just Islamic enemies, but also King of the East. And other Confederations.
Yes! Very good...Michah also mentions something about Basrah...
Sure, I agree. If you read Obadiah, Malachi, Isaiah 63, Ezekiel 25&35, and other references, God specifically calls out Edom for everlasting judgement. Ezekiel’s description of the borders of Edom covers much of Saudi Arabia and Southern Jordan...the current epicenter of radical Islam...Mecca/Medina
Thank You brother Jan, I’ll look at those scriptures.
Jan_Sobieski did you look at that article,I posted to you on Ezekiel’s 430, days and how if you work the mathematics, you get 1948 and 1967, interesting yes?
I will look again, Stonewall!
Born again is not what Christ said. Christ said born from above... Meaning at conception a ‘soul/spirit’ is placed in the womb. And only those that take this flesh journey pass the first requirement to ‘see the kingdom of God’. Born again is a slogan that does not fit with what Christ was teaching... Check out the book of Jude.... there are some that refuse to take this flesh journey and they are call the Sons of God in Genesis and fallen angels elsewhere. And they like the devil have already been judged to death.
John 3:13 explains what Christ was teaching.” And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but He That came down from heaven, even the Son of man Which is in heaven
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