PCUSA on Track to Lose Over 400K Members by 2020

Christian Post ^ | 02/08/2016 | Michael Gryboski

[Dr. Sivana]

[publius911]

No, throwing out the Word of God sent them over the cliff. Don't confuse the symptom with the cause.

A distinction without a difference ---- in results.

[Bryanw92]

Fortunately, the PCUSA isn’t the only Presbyterian denomination. My PCA church gets lots of PCUSA refugees.

[P8riot]

Same here

[Vigilanteman]

As would I. As the old saying goes:

If you don't stand for something, then you'll fall for anything.

It is precisely for that reason that I rejoice when I see full parking lots at a Protestant Megachurch, a Mormon Church or a Catholic Cathedral even if they don't happen to be my cup of tea.

It is at least showing people who will stand for something decent.

[dp0622]

Agreed

[Wilhelm Tell]

Their numbers are sure to improve. Just imagine all the gay couples who would be happy to join the church, and then their children would... oh, never mind!

[Lee N. Field]

Parity with the PCA, when?

[fungoking]

The PCUSA has been a bastion of blasphemy for a long long time, If you want to hear blasphemy ever weak from the pulpit, they are the place to be.

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Lots of churches like that from every domination. As my dad would say, just write Ichabod above the door and be done with it.

[HamiltonJay]

Unlike lots of churches, the PCUSA is not just a single rogue church, this entire organization has been nothing but blasphemy for decades... if you actually have read and understand christian theology at any level, you cannot be part of this church as it exists today.

[rdb3]

Gamecock, it's like the celestial clock is ticking louder and faster.

2 Thessalonians 2:3

[ReformedBeckite]

No, throwing out the Word of God sent them over the cliff. Don't confuse the symptom with the cause.

Either that or they use the liberal rag newspapers, and liberal TV as their main source in interrupting the scripture.

[Gamecock]

I think you are right my FRiend.

[Gamecock]

There is a large contingent of Korean Pres inside the PCA.

Is that is them they are good to go.

[grumpygresh]

So many of these institutional churches and mega-churches have been terminally compromised.

It’s a blessing to have hundreds of small Bible believing Churches and home churches replacing large corrupt organizations that are complicit with the state.

[Albion Wilde]

One self-inflicted contribution to the decline has been the general theological direction of the General Assembly especially its growing acceptance of homosexuality.

Why did they learn nothing from the demise of ECUSA and the threatened split of the UMC over this? It's a non-starter for actual Christians, as opposed to mere cultural/social CINOs, or Democrats who want to infiltrate Christianity with heresies.

[Bryanw92]

>>Why did they learn nothing from the demise of ECUSA and the threatened split of the UMC over this?

They don’t care. I have spoken to leftist pastors countless times over these issues. They explain that:

1) God isn’t through speaking to us. New things are revealed to each generation.

2) We (the conservatives) are living in a past that never existed as we think it did.

3) That biblical inerrancy is a fairly recent development in the evolution of the church.

And if you keep disagreeing, they hit you with:

4) Where did you get your seminary degree? I have been trained and tested to know that I am more knowledgeable about these subjects than you.

#1 alone is where we should part ways, but I stupidly try to dig into their beliefs and that’s when I get hit with 2-4.

[cloudmountain]

Not surprising when so many denominations "officially" approve of abortion, same-gender liasons, divorce-remarry a la Liz Taylor, unfettered birth control and such.

Christians, of whatever demonimation, have the core beliefs of Jesus and THEY may not have the same beliefs as their uber liberal leadership.

[cloudmountain]

Christians who are not homosexual and read the Bible will not put up with queer priests/ministers. The Scriptures make it clear that sex outside of marriage, that is marriage of a man and woman is a sin. Why do people think God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? Homosexuality is an abomination.
AMEN.

Bye-Bye Presbyterian Church.
I think that it's a sad state of affairs for those life-long Presbyterians to see what has become of the "faith of their fathers."

[Bryanw92]

>>I think that it’s a sad state of affairs for those life-long Presbyterians to see what has become of the “faith of their fathers.”

I know quite a few who hate what the PCUSA has done, but they won’t move over to the PCA because they’ve invested so much time and money in their old church, they are Elders and are respected there, and they would rather be in an apostate denomination than start over elsewhere.

These are the most pitiful ones of all.