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**Mary is the Mother of Immanuel, which the scriptures explicitly translate as “God with us.”**

Once again I ask: what divine quality did Mary create in the Son?

She was mother to a child to be called Immanuel. She didn’t make him “God with us”. God the Father did that. She was used to help make an earthly habitation for the invisible God. You see,.......

..**You still have not answered**..

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That is why I encouraged you to believe the Son’s words in John chapter 14. For some brevity, start with verse 6. Look at what he says in verse 7:

“If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye KNOW him, and have SEEN him.”

Philip still didn’t understand, and (like a Trinitarian, looking for a separate image of the Father) asked, “Shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.”

To which Jesus replied, “Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known ME, Philip? he that hath SEEN me hath SEEN the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou NOT that I am IN the Father, and the Father IN me? the words that I speak unto you I speak NOT of myself: but the Father that dwelleth IN me, HE doeth the works.”

You said this a while back....

**It is in the scriptures, which one needs believe of his own volition, cooperating with the grace of God.**

....So, I’m trying to get you to take the whole of scripture, and not a single verse as you did here:

“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”

Are you saying that the Father was not in the Son at that time? Or, are the scriptures showing that the Christ no longer SENSED the power of God in him?

Jesus Christ told his disciples in Samaria: “I have meat that ye know not of.” (from Jn 4:32)

He knew when virtue had left his body to heal someone, as was the case of the woman, with the issue of blood, that touched his garment. He pulled loaf after loaf, fish after fish, out of a little basket. He experienced the transformation witnessed by Peter and John. He knew that Lazarus was dead without any earthly person informing him, and on and on.

On top of the extreme physical and mental torture he was going through on the cross, he had to also go through the pain of realizing that the “meat”, that the disciples knew not of, was not going to sustain his body on the cross. It had to be. God was not going to constantly generate oxygen rich blood in his body. He had to die.

Impossible as it is for us, try to imagine having that kind of power placed in your body, and after three plus years, suddenly not feeling it anymore.

The scriptures don’t plainly say that God left his body, just that the Son asked God why he had forsaken him. But, I have felt that that was literally the case; and that the Father didn’t re-enter that body until he wanted to raise it up from the dead.

**You still have not answered which denomination or sect you assemble with, leading me to conclude it must be a cult.**

A cult, that uses the Bible as a foundation, avoids certain scriptures for the sake of maintaining their interpretations. Or they add to it, with so called visions that lead to additional words and books (that change original doctrine), supposedly from God.

I assemble with oneness Pentecostals. But, regardless of my spiritual condition, one could be only looking for a payday (look at Balaam). So that doesn’t matter if I happen to just be a messenger (relay) pointing out the Word. I can go anywhere in the scriptures that you choose to go in a Godhead debate, and prove by the whole of the scriptures, that God the Father is invisible, and is THE source of all things divine (James 1:17).