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To: Zuriel
Precisely. The answer is in that word you thoughtfully added. Thank you for that.

There is one holy catholic apostolic church in actual recorded history.

The scriptures, that your organization claim to have preserved, give precise doctrine.

And did preserve; my brethren the Jews preserved the Jewish Bible, and my brethren the Catholics preserved the Catholic Bible, which then became the Protestant Bible.

That precise doctrine is provided by God.

Then there is no need for you to teach any doctrine, since it is already provided by God.

He never used the phrase, God the Son; so it was never included in the scriptures. He saw to it that the phrase, Mother of God, was never used either.

None of your English is in the scriptures, and yet Miriam/Mary as the Mother of "God with us" is certainly in the scriptures.

Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying, Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above. But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD. And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. [20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. [21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Isaiah, Catholic chapter seven, Protestant verses ten to sixteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty three,

God’s history is correct. Man’s recordings and opinions of history are subject to scrutiny. “These were noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Acts 17:11

One group of Jews was more noble than another group of Jews, and that does not make you a Jew. What the Apostle to the Gentiles taught was true, whether you search the scriptures daily to see if you agree with him or not.

60 posted on 02/15/2016 7:14:35 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

**There is one holy catholic apostolic church in actual recorded history.**

The true, doctrinally correct church in the NT epistles doesn’t use the phrase, God the Son. It’s not there.

**And did preserve;**

God uses all sorts of means to preserve his word. Egypt preserved Israel though the famine. Ravens preserved Elijah through another famine. Egypt preserved the child Jesus from Herod.

**Then there is no need for you to teach any doctrine, since it is already provided by God.**

Then why do you change it with your unscriptural phrases?

Your adjusting of Mary’s position:

**Miriam/Mary as the Mother of “God with us” is certainly in the scriptures.**

........is classic word play. Do you not believe that the Father is in Christ, giving him the divine words and doing the divine works, and giving him absolute power? That’s how the invisible God appeared to man in these last days (Heb. 1:1,2). Or do you not believe John chapter 14?

**What the Apostle to the Gentiles taught was true, whether you search the scriptures daily to see if you agree with him or not.**

Paul never used the phrase, God the Son, and as far as I recall never even mentioned the name of Mary. Nothing personal, but I trust Paul’s understanding of the Godhead MUCH more than I trust your organization’s opinion on the subject.

Are you af vet 1981 of Free Republic, or Free Republic the af vet 1981?


61 posted on 02/15/2016 11:04:07 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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