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1 posted on 02/04/2016 10:13:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

why is this news?


2 posted on 02/04/2016 10:16:06 AM PST by Mr. K (Maybe people are poor BECAUSE they vote democrat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good for them! It’s sad that the big PCUSA mothership gets $1.4M when the members of the church paid for everything over the years, but at least they are free from the homo-loving abortionists who have abandoned the Confession and the Gospel.


3 posted on 02/04/2016 10:16:57 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind

:: there were certain procedural issues with the congregational vote that made the regional body declare it invalid ::

[SIGH] !


6 posted on 02/04/2016 10:22:50 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would any church want to become part of a denomination that owns the property they accumulate over the years? Is there some benefit from the PCUSA the church gets in its early years which makes an association like this beneficial when the church is first starting out?


7 posted on 02/04/2016 10:23:39 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

We left the PCUSA in 2000. They are pro-choice, in favor of gay marriage, and anti-Isreal. They even give pastors abortion coverage in their medical benefits.


8 posted on 02/04/2016 10:25:38 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems unchristian to blackmail the church into submission or else be executed by law suites.

God help the church of faithful people seeking to do unto others as we would have them so unto us.

God is good, God is great let us THANK Him for His grace, loving kindness, tender mercies, and His testimony as to His plan ... for Salvation, and forgiveness for sins.

PRAISE GOD!


10 posted on 02/04/2016 10:28:41 AM PST by midlander
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why member churches should own their own property independently


12 posted on 02/04/2016 10:32:16 AM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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Ping


13 posted on 02/04/2016 10:32:17 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling of America's Party for President the only person to restore the Republic)
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To: SeekAndFind

The PCUSA holds the deed to a church property even though an individual Congregation pays for it. I encountered this in the 90’s when I was a church elder. It is how the PCUSA maintains control of individual Congregations. Several former PCUSA congregations have bought themselves out through the years.


14 posted on 02/04/2016 10:36:39 AM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Churches have to pay the denominations to leave their clutcjes. That’s why many remain within the fold.


15 posted on 02/04/2016 10:45:13 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind
PCUSA's chosen political position on Israel goes against the beliefs of many also.

Trump's claim to being a "Presbyterian" may, or may not, be a plus.

18 posted on 02/04/2016 11:14:23 AM PST by loveliberty2
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Well, a couple of thoughts on the story.

First, $125,000 isn’t a quarter of a million dollars. It’s a half of a quarter.

“Mission Presbytery will contribute $125,000 of this amount to the John Knox Ranch Summer Camp,” read the announcement.

“The contribution to the camp provides one quarter of the $1 million being raised for the hall’s reconstruction.”

Second, it isn’t a megachurch (commonly defined as more than 2000 weekly attendance).

Latest available data from 2013 shows while the membership is 2,123, weekly attendance at worship is only 794 - less than half of what constitutes a megachurch. (As late as 2006, attendance was over 1000. In the same period, Sunday school enrollment has dropped by half, suggesting it is the young families that have fled). Annual contributions are $4,752,407, which is high for that sized church.


20 posted on 02/04/2016 11:46:26 AM PST by PAR35
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