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Is It Ever OK to Lie?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 02-02-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 02/03/2016 6:37:39 AM PST by Salvation

Is It Ever OK to Lie?

February 2, 2016

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Many of you know that I write the Question and Answer Column for Our Sunday Visitor on both their newspaper side and in their magazine, The Catholic Answer. Every now and then a question comes in that seems like a good topic for the blog.

The following question comes up frequently whenever I teach moral theology classes and we cover the issue of lying. In a way it is remarkable that the format of the question almost never changes, and that the usual (and I would argue questionable) answer has taken such deep root in Catholic thinking.

Here is the question followed by my answer to it. (Note that the answers I provide in that venue are required to be brief.)

Q. Is every lie intrinsically evil? I remember 60 years ago, when the Jesuits were still faithful teachers of Holy Mother Church, being taught that if a person was not entitled to the truth, one could, in fact, lead them away from the truth, by lying. For example, if I knew the hideout of Anne Frank and the Gestapo asked me if I knew her whereabouts, according to this theory, if I said I did not that would [not] be intrinsically evil. Ed S., Muscatine, IA

A: Permit a personal reply to this, with the understanding that reasonable people may differ with some aspects of my answer.

Unfortunately, the approach that you cite is a widespread notion related to a questionable concept called "mental reservation." I call it "unfortunate" because it seems to say that a lie is not a lie.

But in the common example you cite, you clearly would be lying since it meets the definition of lying: speaking that which is untrue with the intention of deceiving. Indeed, the entire purpose of the lie is to deceive the officials by saying what is untrue.

It will be granted that the situation described is dreadful and fearsome. But I, like many moral theologians, am not prepared to say that it is not a lie simply because the situation is fearful and the authorities are bad people.

Perhaps the better approach is to say that it is a lie and that, as a lie, it is intrinsically wrong. However, when one is under duress or sees no clear way to avoid a consequent grave evil or injustice, one's culpability for such a lie is lessened. It seems rather doubtful that God would make a big deal of the sort of lie you describe on Judgment Day.

But to call any lie good or justifiable is to harm a moral principle unnecessarily. Call it what it is: a lie. It is not good. And it is not permitted to do evil in order that good may come of it.

With this in mind it is better to say that what you describe would constitute a lie, lamentable but understandable. And given the gravity of the situation, there would not likely much if any blame incurred.

Life sometimes presents us with difficulties that are not easily overcome. But to adjust moral principles to accommodate anomalies is to engage in a kind of casuistry that does harm to moral principles. Sometimes the best we can do is to shrug humbly and say, "Well it's wrong to lie, but let's trustingly leave the judgment on this one up to God, who knows our struggles and will surely factor in the fearsome circumstances."

So there's my view, succinctly stated. There was no room in the column to address the questions that might arise based on my answer, but I will do so here:

  1. Is this the case even if someone does not have the right to know the truth?
    1. I am not sure it is right to say that someone does not have the right to know the truth. Certain matters may be no one's business, but if that is the case then you should respond, "This is not for you to know and I will not answer." But lying to such a person would not make the lie something other than what it is: a lie.
  2. What about state-sponsored lying in matters of national security?
    1. Don't ask me to call it good or not a lie. But the fact that every nation knows that the others are lying is a factor. This does not make it good or not a lie, but would tend to make the practice less egregious and lessen the culpability of the officials who engage in it. In a big, bad world, permit me to shrug on this one--but don't ask me to call it good, or virtuous, or not a lie.
  3. What about undercover investigations by the police or journalists that use assumed identities or present false information or intentions?
    1. Here, too, don't ask me to say that telling a lie is really telling the truth. The fact is, it's a lie. One should always seek to gather information in a straightforward manner. In criminal investigations the lie may be less egregious since most criminals are on their guard for exactly these sorts of tactics. But here, too, I would request that you not insist I call such practices good or even justifiable. I just don't like being asked to say that it is permissible to do evil in order that good may come of it. The best I can do is to shrug and say, "Even though we live in a big, bad world, this is still lying. But it may not be the most serious sort of lying given the circumstances." We all know it goes on. Let's not call it good, but other things being equal, let's not lose a lot of sleep over it either. There are big lies that cause grave harm and there are smaller lies that cause less harm. Not every lie is a mortal sin or equally harmful.

OK, now it's your turn. But before answering, remember your Catechism:

A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving ... To lie is to speak or act against the truth in order to lead someone into error ... The gravity of a lie is measured against the nature of the truth it deforms, the circumstances, the intentions of the one who lies, and the harm suffered by its victims. If a lie in itself only constitutes a venial sin, it becomes mortal when it does grave injury to the virtues of justice and charity (CCC 2482 - 2484).


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To: Salvation
My pastor once preached a sermon with an upshot of, "God is truth, therefor anything other than absolute truth is an intrinsic contradiction of God's will."

That said, should people who were hiding Jews during the Holocaust have said, "Why yes, mr. gestapo agent, I do have some Jews in here, right this way..." Of course not.

The difference between lying and not telling the truth is, IMHO, the same difference as the one between murder and self-defense.

21 posted on 02/03/2016 7:01:43 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Salvation

Exodus 5:1
Afterward Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and said, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Let my people go, so that they may hold a festival to me in the wilderness.’”

Hmmm.


22 posted on 02/03/2016 7:02:28 AM PST by ThomasThomas (Veritaphobia The true sign of a liberal.)
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To: Salvation
Remember the Commandment, though: "Thou shalt not bear false witness."

The commandment is "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

23 posted on 02/03/2016 7:03:58 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: ShadowAce
In the example of Anne Frank, given in the OP, the proper response would be no response.

The Gestapo would not have accepted silence as a response. A modern-day equivalent in this country won't accept silence either.

24 posted on 02/03/2016 7:06:23 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain

What they accept is their decision. What you provide is yours.


25 posted on 02/03/2016 7:08:01 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Why is it wrong to lie? It is wrong to lie because you are causing harm to your neighbor.

Your silence could be the same as admitting that you’re hiding someone and you would be guilty of sin because of the harm you would have caused.


26 posted on 02/03/2016 7:09:31 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: ShadowAce
What they accept is their decision.

And their decision is to shoot you between the eyes, right there, tear your house apart, and find the Jewish family you were hiding in your attic, and haul them off to Bergen-Belsen.

27 posted on 02/03/2016 7:10:50 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Salvation

Did Jesus ever lie? Did He not just keep His mouth shut?


28 posted on 02/03/2016 7:10:59 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: NorthMountain
Could be. Could be that God would not allow that.

Doesn't matter. I am not God to make that decision. I am His creation to follow His decision to not allow lying.

29 posted on 02/03/2016 7:13:24 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salvation

How would one then conduct an election?


30 posted on 02/03/2016 7:14:45 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Salvation

How would one then conduct an election?


31 posted on 02/03/2016 7:14:47 AM PST by aquila48
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To: MNDude
Your silence could be the same as admitting that you’re hiding someone and you would be guilty of sin because of the harm you would have caused.

Silence is admitting nothing. How they interpret your silence is on them.

32 posted on 02/03/2016 7:15:15 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salvation; NYer; zot; xzins

In the “Anne Frank” example, I’d rather trust Jesus to forgive me for lying to protect a person(s) from being killed by a tyrannical State or a criminal.

I also hope and pray that I will be forgiven for the times I’ve told my mother, who is in hospice, that I’m ok and her grandchildren are in good health. She has always been a worrier, and I see it merciful in saving her from other worries.

These are the only two exceptions I have in my rejection of what was called “situational ethics” back in college philosophical discussions in the late 60s.


33 posted on 02/03/2016 7:16:07 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ShadowAce

May you never be faced with such a decision.


34 posted on 02/03/2016 7:17:43 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Salvation
Like everything else we do, we have to exercise good judgment and think of the consequences.
Think of the damage you do when you lie, think of the damage you would cause if you tell the truth to the wrong person.
There are people who seek to harm us and we have no obligation to share information they could use to do so.
Lying is wrong but sometimes we have an even larger DUTY to conceal private or confidential information we may have.
The nature of some secrets is such that even evading the question gives away too much information. Then a lie is necessary.

35 posted on 02/03/2016 7:18:20 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: NorthMountain

I hope not. It would be very difficult. I won’t even say I would behave properly in that situation, given the circumstances. But I know what’s right.


36 posted on 02/03/2016 7:20:06 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: All

If someone has an ugly wife, you NEVER say so.


37 posted on 02/03/2016 7:21:10 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: Salvation

I think God is more concerned with the motive than the act. So if one lies — admittedly a sin, as the good Monsignor demonstrates — but with a pure heart, then I suspect the Almighty will consider that when passing His awful judgment.


38 posted on 02/03/2016 7:23:56 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack
I think God is more concerned with the motive than the act.

Sorry--the two are always tied together. Sinning means you believe you know better than God. Doesn't matter what you tell yourself.

39 posted on 02/03/2016 7:26:10 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salvation

WE have choices between good and evil.

Sometimes we must choose between evils, and choose the lesser evil, such as political candidates.

There was a general rule about lying for your own benefit was wrong, but lying (or not telling the truth) to protect others was acceptable.


40 posted on 02/03/2016 7:27:41 AM PST by ADSUM
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