[Repent and Believe]

You anti-Mary folks create a straw man by presenting a case that we Mary lovers are REPLACING our love for God with our love for Mary. Then you go about shaming us and condemning us for idolatry.

Did you ever thank your “pastor” or a friend for helping you understand and thus love Jesus more?

Did you ever thank someone for coming to your place of worship to give a talk or preach?

Did you ever tell your biological mother or father or a teacher or a coach how grateful you are for what they have done for you?

That is what true Catholics do when they address Mary and sing her praises, or ask her intercession while she enjoys heavenly proximity to the Son that she bore and with whom she can thus more intimately confer.

God honors his saints. “If you are not ashamed of Me on earth I will not be ashamed of you in heaven” says He.

Mary was the foremost disciple of Christ demonstrated in her presence with John at the foot of the cross, for heaven’s sake!

So if God is not ashamed of Mary, how can you be?

Please repent and believe this sound doctrine.

[metmom]

We’re not anti-Mary.

We’re anti mythology and fabrications about Mary that can’t be substantiated with Scripture.

We’re very pro Mary as she is presented in Scripture, which is not the same as the latest version of the RCC created Mary.

Mary, mother of JESUS.

[Elsie]

You anti-Mary folks create a straw man by presenting a case that we Mary lovers are REPLACING our love for God with our love for Mary.

You Rome created Mary folks create a straw man by presenting a case that we Prots are CLAIMING that you Rome lovers are REPLACING your love for God with your love for Rome's Mary.

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We are NOT saying 'replacing'.

We are saying you are SHARING the love you SHOULD have for GOD; with a mere human; a vessel for transporting the Holy Wine from Heaven, and delivering It to the saints.

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Isaiah 42:8
"I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to anyone else, nor share my praise with carved idols.

[Elsie]

So if God is not ashamed of Mary, how can you be?

Rome created WHAT???

[Elsie]

Did you ever thank your “pastor” or a friend for helping you understand and thus love Jesus more?

Did you ever thank someone for coming to your place of worship to give a talk or preach?

Did you ever tell your biological mother or father or a teacher or a coach how grateful you are for what they have done for you?

Uh... these folks are all ALIVE!

[PeterPrinciple]

Did you even think and try to comprehend what I wrote? Where did the idea of idolatry, anti mary, come from. That is something lurking in your mind and you better deal with it. All you do is respond with personal attacks. Did I attack you personally, the answer is NO.

Quote me your doctrine then. Show me I am wrong.

I don’t hate Mary, if your read what I wrote you would get that.

What is better: To thank Mary for God, or to thank God for Mary?

Give me an answer IF YOU CAN. I am simply informing you danger of honoring the creature instead of the Creator. Does it offend you that I call Mary a creature? Well you and I are creatures too.

Jesus corrected the Jewish tradition that Moses gave them bread in the wilderness. Why did he correct that?

[PeterPrinciple]

God honors his saints. “If you are not ashamed of Me on earth I will not be ashamed of you in heaven” says He.

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Lets take a look at that.

1) I cannot find the above in the Bible but it sounds good. I am willing to be corrected and will you point me toward the source. Again, it reminds me of the following. They quote the source as the scriptures but it is not. Jesus quickly corrects them with the truth.

Joh 6:31 After all, our ancestors ate manna while they journeyed through the wilderness! The Scriptures say, ‘Moses gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”
Joh 6:32 Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, Moses didn’t give you bread from heaven. My Father did. And now He offers you the true bread from heaven.

2) Lets assume your statement is ok and look at it closely.
God honors his saints, not us. Our purpose in life is to honor God. Where does the honor take place? What does the honor God gives look like? It says “not ashamed”, that is a far distance away from honor or veneration as you would call it.

3)Most times “higher ground” is needed to let Gods Spirit speak to us. The Bible is very consistent in what it says throughout the old and new testament.

Psa_149:9 to carry out on them the judgment written; this is an honor for all His saints. Praise Jehovah!

Praise and honor belong to Jehovah.

2Th 1:10 when He shall come to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day.

The purpose of the saints is to glorify God

Luk 17:10 In the same way, when you obey Me you should say, ‘We are unworthy servants who have simply done our duty.’”

The above is the response of any true saint. They are unworthy and do not deserve any honor. Puts us in our place doesn’t it?

Luk 1:49 For the Mighty One is holy, and He has done great things for me.
Luk 1:50 He shows mercy from generation to generation to all who fear Him.
Luk 1:51 His mighty arm has done tremendous things! He has scattered the proud and haughty ones.
Luk 1:52 He has brought down princes from their thrones and exalted the humble.
Luk 1:53 He has filled the hungry with good things and sent the rich away with empty hands.
Luk 1:54 He has helped His servant Israel and remembered to be merciful.
Luk 1:55 For He made this promise to our ancestors, to Abraham and his children forever.”

The above is Mary’s testimony. It is not about her. It is about God.

I thank God for the “iron sharpening” this morning.

[Syncro]

So if God is not ashamed of Mary, how can you be?

You seem to miss the point that Catholicism has molded Mary into something she is not.

Like a doppelganger of the real handmaiden of the Lord that gave birth to Jesus then lead a quite holy life as the wife (with all it's aspects) of Joseph.

We Christians love and respect the Mary of the Bible.

Please repent and believe this sound doctrine.

Please post some sound doctrine. Backed up by scripture would be helpful

Have you noticed that lately the Catholic Mary is the central figure in Catholicism?

Come to Jesus, he will receive you into His kingdom. Believe and repent.