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To: Syncro
Just because you say it doesn't make it true. In fact, most of the time your posts are not factual, and never proved.

I say what history says and any reasonaably history of the times say exactly that. If you want to deny what is fact, you have to show it to be in error....

I say it is true because church history says that it's true....you say it is false because Protestants decided to rewrite church history. If, for 1,600 years, Christians (all of them) believed it....when did the facts suddenly change???

481 posted on 01/29/2016 9:16:59 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!)
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To: terycarl
I say what history says and any reasonaably history of the times say exactly that. If you want to deny what is fact, you have to show it to be in error

Ok one last time. If you state something and say it is true history, it is on YOU to prove what you said. That is a hard and fast rule.

Links please so we can see where you get your "history."

483 posted on 01/29/2016 9:19:37 PM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: terycarl
I say it is true because church history says that it's true....you say it is false because Protestants decided to rewrite church history

Well, that is kind of the last straw.

Personal and mindreading.

Now you have to prove the false statement about me.

Search my posts for days and you will never see me saying what you say I have.

I'm about to shake the dust off of my feet.

485 posted on 01/29/2016 9:22:10 PM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: terycarl
If, for 1,600 years, Christians (all of them) believed it....when did the facts suddenly change???

You'll have to ask the CATHOLIC tribunal that Galileo was brought before; not me.

497 posted on 01/30/2016 3:37:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; Syncro
I say it is true because church history says that it's true....you say it is false because Protestants decided to rewrite church history. If, for 1,600 years, Christians (all of them) believed it....when did the facts suddenly change???

There you go with that knowledge again....

Unlike any other Christian see, Rome can put at least a name to every bishop in an unbroken line back to the 1st century of the Christian era and to St Peter himself as the first pope. The papacy, though not recognized as such until later centuries, has impressive credentials.

Many popes in the first three centuries of the Christian era are obscure figures. Several suffer martyrdom along with members of their flock in periods of persecution. Most of them are much involved in theological argument with other bishops, as the young church flexes its doctrinal muscles.

The change to a very different role comes during the brief pontificate of Miltiades (311-314). In 313 he holds a council openly in Rome, at the behest of the emperor, in the Lateran palace. A lasting link, between the papacy and temporal power, has begun. And there are immediate signs of the change.

The first churches: AD 312-337

Concrete evidence of the new status of Christianity is seen in the emergence of the first church buildings. The change is most visible in Rome, the strongest Christian community. Until now, in spite of the size of the congregation of Christians in Rome, worship has been conducted discreetly in private houses. Suddenly churches become public buildings, city landmarks as prominent as the temples of the pagan cult.

Leo the Great: AD 440-461

The first pope to indicate the real potential of the papacy is Leo I, who has an unusual span of twenty-one years in office. He uses his time well, not only in the papal duty of restraining heretics but also in rehearsing other roles to be played by Rome.

Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?ParagraphID=etn#ixzz3ykI8nk5q

532 posted on 01/30/2016 8:25:58 AM PST by ealgeone
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