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To: Mark17
And if you don't do good enough, you're not saved. Right? That's about what I was told. Oops, how do I know, I slept through those classes.

That's a distinct possibility, or you were paying attention to that cutie in seat 5......whatever it was, you misinterpreted the Catholic message if you EVER heard it described as works based. It was probably pointed out to you that you could reject salvation by continuing to perform evil works, but NEVER could gain salvation solely through works of any nature. Either you were Catholic for a very short time, had a rare instructor who was in error, or misinterpreted what the church teaches.

139 posted on 01/24/2016 12:42:01 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!)
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To: terycarl; Mark17

OK, so if salvation is not works based, then there’s no need for the Catholic church, baptism, communion, confirmation, last rites, confession, penance, acts of mercy, praying, rosaries, attending mass every Sunday, etc,. etc, etc.


142 posted on 01/24/2016 1:23:31 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl; metmom; ealgeone; Elsie
That's a distinct possibility, or you were paying attention to that cutie in seat 5......

No, she was in seat 4. See, you can't even count right :-)

Actually, you are right. I was more interested in watching the females, than I was in paying attention in religion class. What little time that I WAS paying attention, it was explained that when Jesus died, He made it possible, that through my good works, I could work my way to Heaven.
I don't know if it was 90% to 10% faith vs works, or 80/20 or 70/30. Whatever percentage, it was, it is STILL a WBR. I want 100% to 0%. It's all or nothing.

I know you have said before, that means we can get saved and live any kind of way we want. Let's put that rumor to rest. Absolutely, totally, completely, 100% NO WAY. Not now, not ever. We do, as you said, show God thanks and gratitude by our good works. We don't do good works to get saved, or to stay saved, but BECAUSE we are saved. Again, we are not discussing brain surgery here.

I was so paranoid, that when I spilled holy water on the ground, I was scared that God was going to zap me for committing a mortal sin of sacralige, for desecrating the holy water. I don't think God was all that concerned about the holy water. OK, I guess.

147 posted on 01/24/2016 2:54:26 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: terycarl
Either you were Catholic for a very short time, had a rare instructor who was in error, or misinterpreted what the church teaches.

RARE???

you make kitty laugh!

148 posted on 01/24/2016 2:55:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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