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To: daniel1212
Here, how do we know here that the sin of Onan was quite evident to be selfish disobedience to God?

I was trying to seque into Mary's doing the reverse; if you will.

By her NOT allowing Joseph to...

1,815 posted on 01/10/2016 1:30:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I was trying to seque into Mary's doing the reverse; if you will.

I think it its segue. But a vow of perpetual celibacy would not mean selfishness, but would be subject to will of the father is the vow was made under his headship, or the husband if married. (Num. 30) The idea that Mary was vowed perpetual celibacy is contrary to the description of marriage, and is unseen in Scripture btwn two persons of reproductive age, and is contrary to the almost consistent meaning of "till" (Mt. 1:25) and the characteristic practice of the Holy Spirit clearly mentioning exceptions to the norm among notable subjects of Scripture. But the Catholic premise is that unless forbidden then it can be used to promote Mary above that which is written of her, and which exaltation is censured. (1Co. 4:6)

1,867 posted on 01/10/2016 8:49:52 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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