[ealgeone]

My question: If the pope has the keys why does he need to consult with anyone? Shouldn't he be able to say God told me _______ and there be no question about it?

Would love to hear the catholic position on this.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Shouldn't he be able to say God told me _______ and there be no question about it? Would love to hear the catholic position on this.

The pope and bishops have the power to "bind and loose."

The phrase was well known by the Jews. From the Jewish Encyclopedia:

Rabbinical term for "forbidding and permitting." The expression "asar" (to bind herself by a bond) is used in the Bible (Num. xxx. 3 et seq.) for a vow which prevents one from using a thing. It implies binding an object by a powerful spell in order to prevent its use (see Targ. to Ps. lviii. 6; Shab. 81b, for "magic spell"). The corresponding Aramean "shera" and Hebrew "hittir" (for loosing the prohibitive spell) have no parallel in the Bible.

The power of binding and loosing was always claimed by the Pharisees. Under Queen Alexandra, the Pharisees, says Josephus ("B J." i, 5, § 2), "became the administrators of all public affairs so as to be empowered to banish and readmit whom they pleased, as well as to loose and to bind." This does not mean that, as the learned men, they merely decided what, according to the Law, was forbidden or allowed, but that they possessed and exercised the power of tying or untying a thing by the spell of their divine authority, just as they could, by the power vested in them, pronounce and revoke an anathema upon a person. The various schools had the power "to bind and to loose"; that is, to forbid and to permit (Ḥag. 3b); and they could bind any day by declaring it a fast-day (Meg. Ta'an. xxii.; Ta'an. 12a; Yer. Ned. i. 36c, d). This power and authority, vested in the rabbinical body of each age or in the Sanhedrin (see Authority), received its ratification and final sanction from the celestial court of justice (Sifra, Emor, ix.; Mak. 23b).

This Pharisaical authority is also referred to in the New Testament by Jesus, in "Moses' seat." "Do whatever they tell you."

The pope has a special charism, enjoying ultimate earthly Teaching Authority.

The office of the papacy is patterned after the office of the vice-regent of the Davidic kingdom.

We see in Isaiah 22 the office of the vice-regent or majordomo of the Davidic Kingdom. In the king's absence, the prime-minister held full authority.

The Bible tells us that Jesus is the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom -his Church. Jesus gave "the keys of the kingdom" to Peter, instituting the office of the "prime minister" of Jesus' earthly kingdom.

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The Church teaches that Divine Revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.

The pope does not transmit Divine Revelation, but can rule infallibly regarding Church Teaching, which is based on Divine Revelation.

In my next post I will post below the relevant passages from the Catechism regarding the authority of the bishops and pope.

[The Cuban]

He’s not a medium.

[The Cuban]

He’s not a medium.

[The Cuban]

He’s not a medium. But according to everyone on this thread they are all their own individual.mediums when the HS tells each of them privately how t ok interpret scripture which.makes no sense because there whould.only be one interpretation. So why do you even need interpretive assistance from the HS if the text of the Bible is sufficient? And if that’s sufficient what the point of.Bibpe study or.listening to preachers because the Bible alone is enough??

[Elsie]

Shouldn't he be able to say God told me _______ and there be no question about it?

Then he'd be a Living Prophet®; the ONLY man on earth that god speaks to.

[daniel1212]

My question: If the pope has the keys why does he need to consult with anyone? Shouldn't he be able to say God told me _______ and there be no question about it?

Well, he autocratically can:

882 ..."For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered."

Dictatus papae [1075] (a compilation of 27 statements of powers arrogated to the Pope that was included in Pope Gregory VII's register under the year 1075):

That a sentence passed by him may be retracted by no one; and that he himself, alone of all, may retract it. That he himself may be judged by no one. That no one shall dare to condemn one who appeals to the apostolic chair. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/g7-dictpap.asp

"We read that the Roman Pontiff has pronounced judgments on the prelates of all the churches; we do not read that anybody has pronounced sentence on him"...The reason for which is stated thus: "there is no authority greater than that of the Apostolic See" — Leo XIII - Satis cognitum; http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061896_satis-cognitum_en.html