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To: Not gonna take it anymore; Springfield Reformer; metmom; EagleOne; Iscool; CynicalBear; ...
Jesus commanding His disciples to commit cannibalism would be absolutely violation of the Laws found in Leviticus. On the night of the Passover meal, the ultimate sacrifice had not yet been made on the cross, so to argue that Jesus would change the laws before paying the price is a typical catholic misdirection which I expect will follow this post.

Please remember, without the shedding of blood is no remission of sin. That doesn't read 'without the consuming of blood', it reads without the shedding of blood, and Jesus analogized that coming sacred act by offering a cup of wine, one of the several used in the Passover ritual. But Jesus did not drink from that last cup, telling His disciples He would not make that celebration again until in the Heavenly Kingdom (see Luke's rendering of the Last Supper scene).

In John's Gospel we read the scene where the legalists, seeking an escape clause whereby they could do something to earn God's Grace or have God owe to them His Grace, Jesus told them the thing required by God is to simply believe in He Whom God has sent for their deliverance. These legalists pressed Him further by trying to insinuate He was instructing His followers to do unlawful things.

Jesus then drove them away by telling them, using a conflation of analogies, that they should consider His flesh as bread indeed, tying His coming down from Heaven for them to the manna which came down each night in the desert. This was too much for too many legalists because they saw only the physical application, not the spiritual Truth Jesus was conveying.

AFTER these literalists left His company, Jesus explained to His disciples what He was doing and why eating his body in the bread would profit nothing, that it is the spiritual act symbolized with the breaking and eating of the bread that profits the Spirit side of man, connecting the will of man tot he Grace of God.

When Paul wrote to the Corinthians regarding the ritual Jesus instituted, where do we assume Paul got his information? Paul knew that the symbolism on a physical plane has spiritual significance in the spirit/soul realm. If Paul had been sticking strictly to the physical cannibalistic ritual the catholic religion asserts to its adherents, would Paul have used the term 'unworthily'? Think about it: when one runs a race, the rewards ceremony is symbolic affirmation of the race, not an actual life or death finality. There were pagan rites of sport that did have mortality issues for winning or not, but Paul is writing to believers, to people who have been born from above, already in the family of Jesus, already possessing eternal life by God's Promise.

To do the remembrance unworthily is understood to being holding onto sin in the life such that making the outward symbolism of accepting Jesus sacrifice makes them spiritually unworthy.

Paul goes even further to tell those who would do this unworthily that they are responsible for NOT OBTAINING the prayed for healings others worthy of His sacrifice obtain when they pray and The Holy Spirit responds to their prayers ... responds not to their taking into the belly but having taken into their soul the Life Jesus offers by The Grace of God in Christ. As Jesus instructed the body profiteth nothing (for eating into the alimentary tract is physical consumption), it is the spirit that quickeneth in the souls and spirit realm, not the belly.

And lastly, the story of Ananias and Sapphira illustrates the results of lying to the Holy Spirit/trying to counterfeit Holy Spirit leadership. They died.

1,591 posted on 01/09/2016 9:27:31 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Why are you interpreting the Bible for me? Remember Sola Scriptura!


1,592 posted on 01/09/2016 9:33:18 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: MHGinTN
Good post, one example:
This was too much for too many legalists because they saw only the physical application, not the spiritual Truth Jesus was conveying.

AFTER these literalists left His company, Jesus explained to His disciples what He was doing and why eating his body in the bread would profit nothing, that it is the spiritual act symbolized with the breaking and eating of the bread that profits the Spirit side of man, connecting the will of man to the Grace of God.

The first sentence above seems to be what brought into being the false act of the Eucharist which has permeated Catholicism rituals to the extent that it is considered by their leaders as the supreme act of worship.

Some actually spend hours staring at and "adoring" the "host" encased in an elaborate cage.

1,598 posted on 01/09/2016 10:13:36 AM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: MHGinTN

Paul - 1 Corinthians 11:27-29 King James Version (KJV)

27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.

Guess Paul didn’t have a clue. Who knew?


1,764 posted on 01/10/2016 5:35:01 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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