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Paul - 1 Corinthians 11:27-29 King James Version (KJV)

27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.

Guess Paul didn’t have a clue. Who knew?


1,764 posted on 01/10/2016 5:35:01 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Apparently it is you have not a clue. Paul was a Jew, familiar with the Levitical laws to the nth degree. He is telling his audience (that includes you and me) that if one takes the bread and wine unworthily, they are drinking damnation to themselves because they violate the law. But if the adherent partakes properly they are taking merely bread and wine in a remembrance of what Jesus has done for them. It is the Passover Paul is speaking of, cum full circle int he willing sacrifice Jesus made of His body and blood for our redemption. When wee partake of the bread and wine in worthy fashion, humble, repentant, and gladness at the Grace of God in Christ, we are not in violation of the law because it is bread and wine symbology. BUT, if partaking unworthily, we are not in fellowship with Christ and are doing as too many catholics do every mass, eating the body, blood, soul, and divinity of The Christ, cannibalizing in symbology because they are not in fellowship with Him. When you seek to put catholic words in Paul's mouth, you better know where Paul was coming from else you leap into blasphemy.
1,770 posted on 01/10/2016 6:45:09 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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Paul - 1 Corinthians 11:27-29 King James Version (KJV) 27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. Guess Paul didn’t have a clue. Who knew?

Actually, it is Catholics who show they lack "clues," for as the context here shows, the "body" not being recognized is the church as the body of Christ for which He died, which Corinthians were not recognizing by ignoring members of it, completely contrary to what they were supposed to be showing/declaring! Paul reproves Corinthian church for coming together to eat the Lord's supper, as he charges them with not actually doing so because they were eating what is supposed to be a communal meal, the “feast of charity,” (Jude 1:12) independently of each other, so that “in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken,” and thus what they were doing was to “shame them that have not.” (1Co. 11:20-22)

Therefore Paul proceeds to reiterates the words of Christ at the institution of the Lord's supper, ending with “For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew [kataggellō=preach/declare] the Lord's death till he come.” (1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

For while they were supposed to be showing/declaring the Lord's unselfish sacrificial death for the body by unselfishly sharing food with other members of the body of Christ, whom Christ purchased it with His own sinless shed blood, (Acts 20:28) instead they were both eating independently and selfishly. And thus were effectively treating other members as lepers, and as if the body was not a body, and as if others were not part of the body for whom Christ died. This lack of effectual recognition is what is being referred to as “not discerning the Lord's body,” that of the body in which the members are to treat each as blood-bought beloved brethren, as Christ did. Because they were presuming to show the Lord's death for the body while acting contrary to it, therefore they were eating this bread and drinking the cup of the Lord unworthily, hypocritically, and were chastised for it, some unto death. (1Co. 11:27-32)

Because this was the case and cause of condemnation — that of not recognizing the nature of the corporate body of Christ in independently selfishly eating — versus not recognizing the elements eaten as being the body of Christ — then the apostle's solution was, “Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.” (1 Corinthians 11:33-34)

And which leads into the next chapter in which Christ-like love is described. Paul himself was asked of the Lord, “why persecutest thou me” (Acts 9:4) as Paul was attacking the church, thus showing His identification with the church.

Moreover, only the metaphorical understanding easily conflates with the rest of Scripture in its totality.

1,774 posted on 01/10/2016 7:31:25 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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Guess Paul didn’t have a clue. Who knew?

Oh Paul's got a clue...It's you that doesn't have a clue what Paul is talking about...

Another one verse wonder...

1,780 posted on 01/10/2016 9:08:41 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Guess Paul didn't have a clue. Who knew?

Take to heart his words so that you do not eat and drink damnation to yourself.

Remember that Jesus is in each and every Christian. And each and every Christian is in Jesus.

One does not have to visit the Catholic wafer to be in the presence of Jesus if one is born again.

Scripture references available upon request.

1,784 posted on 01/10/2016 10:07:45 AM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY medaitor between God and man)
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