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To: Elsie
Well; as long as the 'god' in question never pre-existed; I guess your point might have some validity; otherwise...

Throughout the New Testament, Jesus Christ referred to the First Person of the Blessed Trinity as His "Father". And the First Person of the Blessed Trinity referred to Jesus Christ as "His beloved son" at the Transfiguration.

In lieu of the above, what's your problem with Jesus Christ also having a mother?

1,104 posted on 01/06/2016 6:22:19 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
In lieu of the above, what's your problem with Jesus Christ also having a mother?

Dang!

Note to self: I have a PROBLEM.

Must get it looked into.

1,108 posted on 01/06/2016 6:27:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; Arthur McGowan
what's your problem with Jesus Christ also having a mother?

If i may weigh in, that is not the problem, nor does opposing the unqualified use of mother of God equate to a heretical view of Christ, or denies the deity of Christ, but the valid objection is that it is inconsistent with the precise language Scripture to say God has a mother, or brothers, or that God was killed, much less give formal title to such (i.e God Killers). And which does not make the distinction btwn the Son of God and God the Father. But "Mother of God", "Brother of God," "God-killer" most naturally denotes Divinity as having relations who ontologicallt are of the same nature.

Theotokos as God-bearer better denotes Mary was the vehicle of the incarnation, but RCs mostly shun that in preference to Mother of God in their idolatrous quest to glorify her above that which is written, which they manifest that are far more committed to than protecting Mary from being venerated as basically a goddess.

Yet mother of God as a mere technically-allowed title would not be so objectionable were it not a formal title as part of the egregious extrapolation of Catholics in making the humble pious holy mother of the Lord Jesus into

> an almost almighty demigoddess to whom "Jesus owes His Precious Blood" to,

> whose [Mary] merits we are saved by,

> who "had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin,"

> and was bodily assumed into Heaven, which is a fact (unsubstantiated in Scripture or even early Tradition) because the Roman church says it is, and "was elevated to a certain affinity with the Heavenly Father,"

> and whose power now "is all but unlimited,"

> for indeed she "seems to have the same power as God,"

> "surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven,"

> so that "the Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin, his Spouse."

> and that ''sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus,"

> for indeed saints have "but one advocate," and that is Mary, who "alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation,"

> Moreover, "there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose,"

> and who has "authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven,"

> including "assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels,"

> whom the good angels "unceasingly call out to," greeting her "countless times each day with 'Hail, Mary,' while prostrating themselves before her, begging her as a favour to honour them with one of her requests,"

> and who (obviously) cannot "be honored to excess,"

> and who is (obviously) the glory of Catholic people, whose "honor and dignity surpass the whole of creation."

Sources and more .

But just as Caths care not that they think of mortals above that which is written, nor can they objectively see such as wrong here or admit it, and even contrive Scripture to say what it does not.

1,167 posted on 01/07/2016 4:06:22 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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