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Yes, Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God (But Here’s What That Means & Doesn’t)
The Official Blog of Benjamin L. Corey ^ | December 17, 2015 | Benjamin L. Corey

Posted on 12/17/2015 6:45:49 PM PST by delacoert

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To: delacoert
As a believer in Jesus Christ, I am quite certain that the God of Christian worship is nothing like the Islamic Allah.

It is really interesting to see how the suspended Wheaton college professor's story has morphed so quickly to hide the underlying ignorance that gave it its legs. The original story was founded on lie that, “Pope Francis stated last week, we worship the same God.” I think that the press believed the professor who got fooled by another round of this false story.

101 posted on 12/17/2015 9:14:06 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert
For example, let's say Jane and Henry both work for a guy named Jeff. Jane says that Jeff is a decent boss who treats people fairly. Henry on the other hand, describes Jeff as being lazy and unavailable. The two people may be describing Jeff differently, and one or both of them might be wrong in their understanding of Jeff, but they're still attempting to describe the same object.

At risk of writing this so far down the thread it doesn't get read, nonetheless: The Jewish/Christian Bible is the result of holy men of old being moved upon by the Holy Spirit to write what they wrote. And, aside from the fact that Creation itself sends forth declarations of God's reality and existence, the Bible is the only way we have any certainty about WHO He is. The Bible defines Him for us, and, most wonderfully, He declares His desire to be with us and for us to be with Him.

Point being: either the Holy Spirit is behind the revelations in the Bible, or not. If He is, then it is a true depiction. If not, then we're all wasting our time talking sweet nothings and whistling Dixie.

If the God of the Bible has truly revealed Himself to mankind, then that is the best news anyone on earth ever heard. If the goddie of the koran is the one with whom we have to do, that is the worst news anyone on earth ever heard.

The author of this article uses a cute little canard: he writes that, since both Jews and Arabs claim descent from Abraham, they must be worshiping the same God. That is a complete non-sequitur, as most discerning readers should clearly see.

102 posted on 12/17/2015 9:16:14 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: delacoert

If Bergoglio said that he was merely affirming the official position of the Roman church.


103 posted on 12/17/2015 9:17:38 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Arthur McGowan

I think it’s self-evident a man cannot worship a God he doesn’t know, so we don’t agree.


104 posted on 12/17/2015 9:22:06 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

If man knows that there is a Supreme Being, infinite and perfect, who is the creator of the universe, is he incapable of worshiping that Supreme Being?


105 posted on 12/17/2015 9:47:18 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Absolutely. God determines how He is to be worshipped. Scripture makes it clear He will only accept that which He has ordained.


106 posted on 12/17/2015 10:01:03 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

If a man never hears of Jesus Christ, etc., then that man is necessarily damned?


107 posted on 12/17/2015 10:35:25 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: .45 Long Colt

He didn't and it's not.

108 posted on 12/17/2015 10:52:29 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Arthur McGowan

Catechism of the Catholic Church

    847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation. <><><>

109 posted on 12/17/2015 11:16:27 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Sorry. Christians know that Allah is Satan.


110 posted on 12/17/2015 11:18:30 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: .45 Long Colt

There has been a phony news article in circulation for at least six months that reports Bergoglio said that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. I'm guessing that the Wheaton College professor got snookered by a new version of this and used it as the basis of the statement in her Facebook post, "Pope Francis stated last week, we worship the same God."

111 posted on 12/17/2015 11:43:53 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

We do NOT worship the same God.

Muslims worship a god that encourages hate, rape, slavery, war and murder.

Chirstians worship the GOD that encourages love, hope, joy, peace, etc

Allah is the antithesis of Jehovah


112 posted on 12/17/2015 11:49:48 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: delacoert

wrong on every level


113 posted on 12/18/2015 1:05:14 AM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: delacoert

NO!


114 posted on 12/18/2015 1:24:09 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: TBP

But was not Ishmael illegitimate since he was born of Hagar and not Sarah, unlike Issac who was born of Sarah?


115 posted on 12/18/2015 3:10:37 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: delacoert
Sheesh.

Abraham didn't start islam. He was just an ancient ancestor of the Arabs.

Islam is Satan's chimera designed to look like a faith of Abraham in the most superficial way. But underneath, at its heart, is it a ritualistic Satanic cult.

The use of the passive word "radicalized" by the media to describe terrorists is a feint. The word that should be used is the active word "religious"...because when one becomes a "religious" muslim, he becomes a monster.

116 posted on 12/18/2015 3:28:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light - John Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: delacoert

What a tangled web we weave...


117 posted on 12/18/2015 3:43:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: delacoert

A ridiculous article that relies on stories, stories......


118 posted on 12/18/2015 3:55:15 AM PST by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: delacoert

My God doesn’t need to be defended by murdering human shills - He stands on His own...


119 posted on 12/18/2015 4:04:31 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: delacoert

CHRISLAM

Led by Rome
embraced by apostate Christianity
loved by muslims all over the world

undeniable it is happening...

the whore of revelation 17?
quite possible.


120 posted on 12/18/2015 4:42:32 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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