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To: piusv
So the ordinary universal magisterium was teaching "theological anti-Semitism" for all those years? I am persuaded that those that charge others with "theological anti-semitism" do so only to keep them from teaching what the Church has always taught ....because they love the new religion.

Antisemitism is a grave sin. If one denies the two commandments one has denied the Messiah. One may find a full quiver of antisemitic faith communities and religions to cling to, but not the one holy catholic apostolic church.

90 posted on 12/19/2015 2:50:48 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; Mrs. Don-o
So you charge Pope Pius IX with so-called "theological anti-Semitism":

the Catholic Church has always been accustomed to pray for the Jewish people, who were the depository of divine promises up until the arrival of Jesus Christ, notwithstanding their subsequent blindness, or rather, because of this very blindness. Moved by that charity, the Apostolic See has protected the same people from unjust ill-treatment, and just as it censures all hatred and enmity among people, so it altogether condemns in the highest degree possible hatred against the people once chosen by God, viz., the hatred that now is what is usually meant in common parlance by the term known generally as anti-Semitism.

Those who believe that the Jewish people are no longer the Chosen People are actually Catholic. They believe what the Catholic Church has always taught. They are not anti-Semitic unless one believes that pre-Vatican II Catholic teaching is anti-Semitic. Pope Pius IX proves that it is not because in his quote above he shows that one can believe that the Jews are no longer the Chosen People and still condemn hatred for them.

To suggest that anyone who proclaims Church teaching as it was always taught as an anti-Semite is a lie and lacks charity towards one's neighbor.

Please do not post to me anymore.

98 posted on 12/20/2015 5:57:41 AM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: af_vet_1981
"So you charge Pope Pius IX with so-called "theological anti-Semitism"

Since a certain dear soul FReeper-Who-Cannot-Be-Named has instructed me to to post no more --- (and -- sniff--- how rejected I feel!) --- I must note that you and I, vet, have both been charged with saying things we did not say. And even charged with saying things we explicitly rejected.

I take this as a sign that "confirmation bias" LINK is a real and powerful force. I also take it as a warning that I should examine my own aggravating biases on a frequent basis to make sure I am not doing the same.

We all do share a flawed human nature, don't we?

But the Lord is good, and will help us.

O - O - O - O, Happy fourth day of the O Antiphons!

"Key of David, and scepter of the house of Israel, who opens and no man shuts, who shuts and no man opens: come, and bring forth the captive from his prison, he who sits in darkness and in the shadow of death."

O CLAVIS DAVID!


99 posted on 12/20/2015 7:13:18 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, love tenderly, and walk humbly with your God.)
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