Good grief, has the entire FR community drunk the kool aid? I don’t hate Muslims and I don’t know anyone who does. But when it comes to a bunch of nut cases coming over here to chop off my family’s heads or set us on fire, I figure it’s my move.
And I never ever heard Trump say he “hates” Muslims.
You can hate behavior and ideology without hating people. It is loving them to want them to hear and know the truth. We are not called to commit suicide, however.
Who is claiming to hate Muslims?
Does rejection of someone’s intentions equal emotional level hatred?
Bkmk
May I be so bold as to inquire pf what political persuasion your friends are?
I don’t think God is expecting us to sacrifice ourselves to a bunch of murdering heathens.
As perhaps has already been said, you are being like a typical liberal i assuming that opposing Islam, and raising the alarm about Muslim immigrants, and expressing disgust at what Islamic terrorists do, equate to hating them. But that measure the Lord hated the Scribes and Pharisees.
And yet as Scripture (using poetic language) states that God abhors the covetous (Ps. 10:3) and "hates" those that love violence, (Ps. 11:5) apparently in despising what they are, (cf. Ps. 73:20) yet choses to love them, showing mercy and grace for them to respond to by repentance, so we can abhor both ourselves as sinners and others, yet choose to love them despite what they are, as sinners needing grace.
Note that God does not love us as we are, but loves us despite what we are by nature, but are accepted in the Beloved on His account, (Eph. 1:6; cf. 1Pt. 2:24; 3:18; 2Co. 5:21) and therefore are commanded to live and love that out.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. (1 Peter 2:24)
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. (Galatians 5:25)
I don’t think about Christs love when I’m trying to save my family and by extension my part of western civilization
I don’t know what sort of Chrustianity you cotton to where you can’t bear ill will towards folks who butcher women and children and man burn
There’s even despicable film out there where they decapitate toddlers
Another where they are gang raping a very pale and beautiful buck naked Christian girl and slice her throat open and bleed her out into a bucket while the last gang banger cretin is still inside her
These are sick puppies bringing the Devils doing to us yet again
I feel it’s perfectly normal to hate those effing animals with every fiber of my being
They are evil em effers subhuman Satan lovers that need killing
The fact that you are namby pamby about hating them spells doom for all of us if too many others think that way
We already have a President who supports them more than us
You need to get your mind right
And go buy a gun Mr I don’t own a gun
Good lord
Where are you from?
Good thing Martel and Sobieski had a different outlook on Christendom than yer pickle exemplifies
They knew what they faced
Butchers
Islam is a Raider’s Religion
It ain’t complicated son
All the crazies have to be killed and the rest brought to heel
We are not the first to face this but even though we’re the strongest materially we are by far the weakest of heart and mind
“He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
‘He’ in the above quote from Luke being Jesus. Why do you think he told the apostles to carry swords? To kill snakes?
I just LOVE leading questions!
Also, Mark 6:11—
1”And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
We can pray for their salvation, but that doesn't mean we have to allow them to murder us or other innocents, and set up their caliphate in as many places as won't fight back, or allow them to rape and groom young girls for prostitutes, or overthrow democratic governments either outright or by using democratic institutions against ourselves. That's not the kind of “love” referred to by Jesus, who was known to use some choice insults against the Pharisees and Sadduceees, and to use a whip against those profaning His Father's temple.
Well, here goes.
I don’t hate Muslims, but as a Christian, I hate the false doctrines and teachings of Islam.
As for the Muslims themselves, I have no problem whatsoever believing that there are many decent, trustworthy Muslims. Unfortunately, I can never know with certainty who they are. I’m unable to base my conclusion on their words or outward behavior. While it’s nice to see someone like the Muslim-American attorney on Fox News this morning condemning terrorist acts such as the one in San Bernardino (though I noticed that he, Obama-like, dodged the term “Islamic radicalism), I can’t really take comfort in that or believe him when he says that most Muslims feel the way he does. I can’t really trust him, because his own prophet and sacred text don’t permit me to do so.
You see, no matter how “moderate” or even casual a Muslim may be in the exercise of his or her faith, the fact remains that their prophet and sacred text still teach the notion of taqiyya, wherein deception is encouraged in order to promote Islam. It teaches not to make friends of unbelievers except to deceive them.
Regardless of how assimilated any Muslim may appear to be, it doesn’t erase the fact that his/her prophet still married a six-year-old (consummating the marriage when she was nine). He still slaughtered and subjugated anyone who opposed him. The Koran still promotes wife beating and the killing of unbelievers, especially Jews. Consequently, whether a specific Muslim engages in these practices himself/herself, is irrelevant to whether they believe them to be acceptable. If they accept the Koran as divinely given, the on what basis do they condemn such things?
While it’s true, as is repeated ad nauseum by Islamic apologists such as Obama, all religions have their extremists who will commit horrific acts under the banner of their beliefs, there is nothing in the actions or words of Christ - or, indeed, the New Testament - that sanctions any such horrific acts. Even the killings in the Old Testament that offend some people were directed against very specific targets, not generically against anyone who wasn’t a believer.
On the other hand, in Islam you have a prophet who displayed every behavior that now comes under condemnation by such mild-mannered Muslims as the one mentioned above, which makes it laughable to hear anyone say that they are “not Islamic” or have a perverted view of Islam.
Simple hoagy .... Park that hate .
.. I lived in the middle east on and off for a quarter of my 22 year career in the military. Qatar, Saudi, Oman, Kuwait, Turkey, UAE. Lived among this confused uneducated form of population control that those kings and dictators did not themselves follow. Islam for thee but not for me was mandatory and quiet evident. News in those regions was about whippings, mutilations, amputations, beheadings and plain old torture baesd on HATE .
.....versus my local church news of helping, caring, christian based events to promote LIFE.
The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources dont portray Muhammad as a great and godly man. They confirm that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and an unrestrained sexual pervert engaged in pedophilia, incest, and rape. He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide. He was a pirate, not a prophet. According to the Hadith and the Quran, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity.
Awareness is the key. I’m aware from multiple points of view and events over time , with an open mind, first hand observations etc .. that Islam is a cult of death and despair for its followers but not its leaders or promoters. Blackmail, fear, pain and death is Islam.
I do not HATE THEM....
I LOVE OURS..... and will include the use of deadly force to protect OUR’s !
Hate is a word I don’t like to use and when I do its a weakness on my part usually due a loss of temper . I reserve the right to dislike and distance myself anyone and any place or thing. Yet I’m home now from my worldwide travels and adventures and after respecting each countries traditions and cultures as encountered... I am HOME now. The home I defended from afar then and still do now in the defense industry to this day here in the United States of America.
I will defend myself, my friends, family, community and nation from the evil I observed first hand. You can call it HATE .......I call it LIFE.
I like to think of myself as a sheepdog instead of sheep that you seem to be per your own words. I will if events require such protect you with my life against all criminals including those created by Islam .....
LIFE !
My opinion based on first hand experience .....
Stay Safe !
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I think of muslims pretty much like dog poop.
I only hate it when it on my shoe.
Otherwise, I keep a keen eye out for it.
Washington State. Please tell us all, how you truly believe how Our Nation, should rebuilt?
Although I don’t hate Muslims, I’ve contemplated how to square stopping/banning immigration from Muslim nations with the Great Commission. Missionaries can go, and that’s good, but it seems there’s another piece. My opinion won’t be a popular one, I’m sure.
I think the recent posts on this thread I’ve read are on the right track. As with so much in the Christian walk, bathing decisions in prayer is the key. I *do* think Christians are called to go where it’s dangerous to spread the Good News. Does that mean bringing potential danger to our shores? I don’t like the answer, but I think it’s yes — though not in the way we’ve been doing it. The current system is insane. Giving visas to obvious jihadis makes no sense whatsoever. Just as there’s a cultural Christianity that misses the point of a saving faith in Christ, so I think there is a cultural Islam that (thankfully) also misses the point of the Islamic death cult.
I was once an enemy of God, bound for an eternity separated from Him. I’m thankful He sent someone to tell me about Jesus. Those born to a Muslim need salvation as much as I and I think believers are (at least part of) the mechanism God has chosen to spread the Good News. I certainly don’t have all the answers, but I don’t think God expects us to wall ourselves off and “be safe.” That isn’t what daily picking up one’s cross and following Jesus means to me.
IBTZ
You love God no more than those you love the least.